General What the hell! New Corsa

[serin]

they both look identical! and if it was the "launch car" why has it got the solid windows of the clay mock up?

id say its still the prototype, as the pictures seen in magazines of test cars bashing about the nurburgring look much smaller, espesially the wheels

 

[H2DaE]

It looks identical, but it's still a concept. And it's called that to cover there backs when they take bits away and people say, "What happened to all the bling!?"

Also, can't imagine those wheels do much for performance

 

[washinpowder]

Also, can't imagine those wheels do much for performance

but look how pretty :yum:

 

[The Trooper]

That's f****** gorgeous :yum: (the Honda not the Vaux.)

 

[ChrisUK]

I'm still cleaning the sick of my keyboard lol. What a pile of Vauxhaul s**t. There is not one Vauxhaul I would own (except a VXR but petrol at 94p a litre I think not).

To me them disgusting yellow light up bits are just dangerous in night driving would catch my attention instead of oncomming cars

 

[Gav]

Quick comparisons - (the best pics I could find so far)

5dr GP Active vs top spec Astra, sorry Corsa

Also, see the Corsa vs the Clio, especially the front lights

 

[Bob in disguise]

hmmmm that is surprising how much the front ends look alike on the clio and corsa.

I can't believe im gonna say this but i think the corsa looks better than the clio from the front :yuck: I'd actually like the clio if it wasnt for that front end

 

[AlexGP]

Hold on a second - take another look at the photos taken from the rear of the both Punto and Corsa. Take a look at the front wings, including the headlight detail, front quarter light and door profiles up to the B pillar.

They are almost identical.

This is scary.

 

[Bob in disguise]

Well they are the same car underneath just the italian one is better looking as usual

Maybe all vauxhall did was buy a punto and a clio and stick bits of them together, probably with cheap glue

 

[H2DaE]

In Top Gear magazine, they but a quote next to a picture of that Corsa saying "Mate an Astra and a Clio and you get a Corsa". Hmmmm where did I hear that? Oh yeah.....

Actually, after looking at those rear lights, it looks like the Astra and the new Clio have had sex in an alley and the Astra had a baby

Great minds and all that...

Oh, and has anyone else noticed those Corsa alloys are a complete rip-off of the Punto Mk2 Sporting/HGT alloys?

 

[devilz_own]

OK WHO DROPPED THE UGLY TREE ON THE CORSArse

no seriously...it looks like the grinch or something:yuck: :nutter: :dead:

 

[AlexGP]

From www.sniffpetrol.com:


There was good news for fans of being a dithering thicko this week as Vauxhall revealed more details of the brand new Corsa, including a series of high tech options specifically designed for the kind of mush brained simpletons who bought the old model. Chief amongst these options is a new system dubbed MLA - Middle Lane Assist - which relies on a series of sophisticated sensors to detect if the driver is displaying anything resembling correct motorway discipline and triggers a warning tone so that they can resume their correct spot in the middle lane, even though the inside lane is completely empty. MLA is directly linked to another exciting new feature known as ASA, or Annoying Speed Assist, which is capable of detecting the speed limit for any given road and then holding the car at precisely 4.5mph less than that. Meanwhile, low speed manoeuvring is taken care of by another revolutionary system labelled Inept Park Assist (IPA) which works off the familiar bumper-mounted parking sensors but sends the information from them to a dedicated ECU which then assesses the steering and throttle inputs needed to bump repeatedly into the car behind and still manage to come to rest bang slap in the middle of a kerbside space that is actually big enough to accommodate two cars, if they weren't driven by people who are ****ing idiots. Of course, the new Corsa isn't just about technology. Amongst the unique aesthetic features premiering on this model, Vauxhall is promising a standard fit range of stupid little teddy bears and gonks strewn all over the dashboard and rear seat so that the entire interior resembles a 12 year old girl's bedroom. When the new Corsa goes on sale in the Autumn prices are expected to start at whatever Vauxhall reckons it can get away with, given that anybody buying one clearly knows **** all about cars and will be so busy deciding what stupid bloody name they're going to give it that they won't ask for a discount.

 

[jug]

is it just me or do most new cars look almost exactly the same?! these big headlights are starting to get me annoyed, it makes all cars look like

i want my car to look like

i've hardly seen a new car i like in the last few years. you have the choice between a bubble or a stretched bubble or a squashed bubble, where are all the edges at?! i want aggression, i want my car to frown, it should make people tremble with fear when they look in their rear view mirror. i dont want a car that says "i love the environment and everyone on gods earth". lets face it, new cars look friendly, happy, harmless and totally gay. i dont wear leopard skin lycra so i dont want one.

one of the few new cars that doesnt make me mad is the alfa 159, those headlights are actually on the front of the car, not on the bonnet, plus they look aggressive. the 159 even has straight edges. wow!

admit it, this car looks angry, if you dont move into the slow lane it will push you into the central reservation, and then wee on you. it has italian flair, the main reason i put up with fiat's crappy reliability.

my bravo has all sorts of faults, i still cant stop the sunroof leak, and it drinks petrol like there's no tommorw. do you think i'd put up with it if it didnt look cool? no way. i'd rather have a vauxhall, they cost less to own and are more reliable. but style is a very powerful selling point, especially for shallow people like me. without a "fiat style" i think sales will get worse, and lets face it, the new punto doesnt have a unique style, its just another new car.

the mk2 punto had style, it had sexy headlights, it had straight lines, it looked aggressive and most of all it didnt look like all the other cars in its class. that gives it a unique selling point which makes up for the fiat "niggling faults". take that selling point away and you have a serious loss of competitiveness. who's going to buy the new punto if they can have a new corsa? mostly the fiat faithful, and that isnt a lot of people. if you buy with your head and not your heart you would get a corsa over the punto, its bound to be the better car. i hate it, but its true.

every cloud has its silver lining, with the GP i think it will be rock bottom prices in less than a year, once competition from the other new cars causes sales to stuggle they'll drop the price a lot, just like they did with the bravo/a once the focus & astra pist all over it. if you want a GP, wait a few months, fiat dealers will be desperate to get rid of them.

my choice would be a mk2.5 punto sporting, the 1.4 16v engine is a winner, plus it has the 6 speed box, and you can get a new one for a bargain price, and it looks better than a GP inside and out IMO. even better get a 1 year old one with low miles, it should have most of the new car faults fixed already so you can actually drive it.

 

[AlexGP]

I agree with you on some of those points. Most cars are limp wristed, unimaginative facsimiles of one another, designed to protect the imbeciles who like to wander out into the road without looking, over everything else. But I think you've got the GP wrong. It's actually beautiful, rather than aggresive.

The general consensus on here is that the Mk 2.5 Punto is ****. Interesting to say you'd go for one of those after your comments on the Mk2 looking so good. They ruined the 2.5 with those large headlights you hate so much. The Mk2.5 is a lash up in every respect. It screams 'desperate mid-life facelift' so badly, particularly the sporty ones with the ridiculously fussy front end.

(Almost) everyone agrees!

As for comments on GP price... time will tell. It's already significantly cheaper than every competitor save the also ran Koreans, so if it does get cheaper, this will mean even more sales. The sales figures speak for themselves presently. They can't make enough of them, but they'll never sell more than the Corsa simply due to exposure - there must be three Vauxhall dealers for each single Fiat one.

I've now seen so many GP's on the road, I could not put ownership down to only those who are Fiat faithful. Just look at many of the owners on here - the majority have come from other brands it seems, myself included.

 

[Bob in disguise]

if you buy with your head and not your heart you would get a corsa over the punto, its bound to be the better car. i hate it, but its true.

Theyre the same car underneath

except the one built by fiat is a lot better looking now thats true

 

[Bob in disguise]

The GP not unique....hmmmm its kinda not because its styled on a maserati but is that a bad thing? But to say it looks like any other car is wrong. Its different to anything else out there and i think the majority of people out there will agree its one of the best looking small cars ever made....

I agree with you the mk2 had style in 3 door form on the outside, i had one as a courtesy car and the biggest let down for me was the interior :yuck: The mk2.5 or 2b on the other hand took everything that was good about the mk2 and butchered it, they ruined its styling and left the same naff interior inside, i dont hate it but i dont care for it either. The mk2b took away fiats unique styling, which let it become such a lemon in its class and sales of it showed that too....The dealers gave such huge discounts on them, most people bought them cause they were good value.

The GP on the other hand is already undercutting the price of all the others on the market and is selling hugely if you hadnt noticed Its dragged fiats finances back into the black and has raised their percentage of the market. Infact Fiat were the only car maker in western europe last month to not have their own sales decrease, so the Gpunto is hardly just being bought by fiat faithfuls.....

As for the corsa being a better car is debatable and down to personal preference, first of all the cars share the same chassis, the majority of engines and i think its around 40% of other components making them up. From the experience i've had with vauxhalls theyre no better built than a fiat and it certainly doesnt look as good as the punto IMO....

From your post I get the impression you dont like the Grande punto, which is fair enough everyone is different! But i think most people will agree this is one of the best cars to come from fiat in quite a long time, and if its keeping them in business it must being doing something right!

And if you like aggressive angry looking cars with lines, i'm surprised you haven't got a stilo. Its got more lines than a bravo!

 

[jug]

i agree the mk2.5 punto is much wankier than the mk2. the mk2 is one of my favorite cars, so much so that my girlfriend now has a mk2 sporting. i just had to get her one so i could drive it. i still think its amazing how a 1.2 litre engine can cruise at 100mph at 4200rpm. the only reason i suggested a mk2.5 is value for money. you can go to a fiat dealership and buy a bottom of the range GP, or for the same money get a mk2.5 sporting. i think the GP is better than the mk2.5, but a bottom of the range GP isnt as good as a mk2.5 sporting for the money. with the mk2.5 sporting you get the 6 speed box and a 1.4 16v engine. that has to be more fun than a 1.4 8v GP with extra weight and a 5 speed box.

the interior on the GP is a bit boring, i think the 2/2.5 interior is better, but thats a personal choice. dont get me wrong i think the GP is a brilliant car, its the best looking in its class IMO, but the new car market is having a hard time pleasing my taste. i agree the GP is more beautiful than agressive, that isnt a bad thing but it is a bit girly. i know small cars arent designed for men so why shouldnt it be girly, girls will be the main target market. but my heart sank when i saw the new bravo, its just a GP that ate all the pies.

i dont personaly think the ugly new corsa is better than the GP, but it will probably be more relaible, have cheaper parts, and generally enjoy the cheap and hassle free ownership vauxhalls tend to have. i dont like vauxhalls but personal opinion aside the corsa will be a wiser choice in the long run, plus it will hold value better than the GP. thats good for 2nd hand buyers. one of the main reasons i own a bravo is the price of them these days.


i think the GP is only selling so well at the moment because it got to the forecourts before most of the competition. not always a wise move for long term sales. i love the GP as a new car, it would make a great car for my girlfrind, but i wouldn't drive one, im 25 so what would people think! i want an escort series1 rsturbo and i wont be happy till i get one. thats just me.

 

[ChrisUK]

I had a Mk2b Punto Sporting 1.4 16v, It was a nice looking, nippy fun little thing to drive with a real personality (unlike my German Machine). I made the mistake of modifying it which was too much power for the 6speed box from the 1.2 sporting to take and broke twice in 3 months so it had to go

I totally agree about italian cars altogether specially Alfa, So sexy and agressive looks like its going to cut your face off and eat your children. If it wasn't for the insurance I would have one. I think Insurance companys stereo type alfa drivers as "Petrol Heads" .

 

[DamoSXI]

The new Corsa will be class leader when it comes out , no problems about that ! ! !

 

[H2DaE]

Well it is basically a Grande Punto underneath, and the Punto looks better. So the only way it's going to be a class leader is because people with no imagination who think "Ooh Vauxhall, they must be good" will buy it