been meaning to ask, looks like some sort of "audio" symbol but i cant think what it is. Cant be for your phone, surely?
General What the flap is this meant to be?
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General What the flap is this meant to be?
been meaning to ask, looks like some sort of "audio" symbol but i cant think what it is. Cant be for your phone, surely?
I think it's something to do with a keyless start system or the Blue & Me system. I'm guessing your car has neither.
oh bloody hell something else my car hasnt got
For cars fitted with the EasyGo keyless entry system, there would be an induction loop under that symbol. If the battery in the EasyGo blip went flat, you place it on that symbol and the induction loop would provide enough power to the blip so the electric steering lock could be disengaged and the car started.
All Stilos have the symbol moulded in the centre console, but very few have the EasyGo system.
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All Stilos have the symbol moulded in the centre console, but very few have the EasyGo system.
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On a side note, I don't suppose that can be retrofitted can it?
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Anything is possible, but we had a discussion about Easy Go recently and decided it wasn't practical to replace the body computer, fit the electric steering lock, and so on.
I suggested that an electric steering lock wasn't a particularly attractive proposition
Something I didn't realise at first was that the symbol/induction loop is only needed if the EasyGo fob battery goes flat. Basically, it reads the immobiliser chip in the same way that the standard system reads the chip in a standard key (through an aerial around the keyhole) - since EasyGo has no ignition keyhole, I guess the designers had to find somewhere else for the key to sit, and under the handbrake was as good as anywhere.
-Alex
Anything can be retro fitted if you have enough money.
The EasyGo system needs a different body computer, 3 or 5 different door locks and door handles, different door control ECUs, an extra ECU in each of the side doors, (put off already?... there's more). A master ECU for EasyGo, various mounting brackets for all the extra components, 7 special aerials distributed around the car, different front, centre and rear wiring looms, electrically activated steering lock, START/STOP button and it's mounting, EasyGo blip(s), different antenna ring for the steering lock. And probably other items that I've missed.
I priced it a few years ago at about £4500 just for the parts from Fiat. Unlikely to get them from a breakers because very few cars were fitted with the EasyGo option in the UK.
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It only has to be there while you start the car. Once started it can go back in your pocket.
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Suddenly, inserting the key and a slight turn of the wrist seems the best method :shrug:
Thanks though!
(What about those cheap eBay buttons that can be wired into the ignition - that you still need to insert the key for?)
Thanks though!
(What about those cheap eBay buttons that can be wired into the ignition - that you still need to insert the key for?)
And one thing less to go wrong. It is an extra electrical item in a fiat........
ive been looking at this symbol thinking whats this mean, now i know.
dont think the retro-fit route is even worth trying with all them loom/Ecu's etc an the cost involved. quite happy to turn the key on an turn off if im stuck in a jam.
Are these aftermarket push starts worth the hassle?
Paul
dont think the retro-fit route is even worth trying with all them loom/Ecu's etc an the cost involved. quite happy to turn the key on an turn off if im stuck in a jam.
Are these aftermarket push starts worth the hassle?
Paul
I might be misunderstanding but 'Easy Go' (proximity unlocking and push-button start) isn't the same as 'Start and Stop' on other models (automatic stopping of the engine when car is at rest)
It would be a little 'interesting' to be sure of whether the doors have automatically locked as you walk away with the CID (roundel) in your pocket - when you walk back to check, the doors will have unlocked
also, I note that for this automatic locking, the steering is NOT locked. I guess that's so if it loses communication with the CID while driving, the steering won't lock unexpectedly.I came across this gem of information in the handbook just now:
"To stop the engine... press briefly button A [the Start-Stop button], the engine stops and the instrument panel display shows the message CAR SECURITY FAILURE or according to versions IMMOBILISER FAILURE - RETURN TO DEALER, to warn the driver to activate door locking (pressing the external handle)."
Now I don't know what you think, but I reckon neither of those messages is quite appropriate for the routine task of switching off the engine and getting out of the car...
-Alex
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Can't say I've ever been interested in the EasyGo system, but for anyone that is, @AlexGS
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It's an orgy of technology isn't it... with TLAs in abundance, terms like 'wake up the network' and 'download'... and did anyone think, "Mmmm, we really need eight aerials to detect the CID... like, one on the rear crossmember as well as the luggage compartment, in case someone hides it under the spare wheel."
-Alex
I suspect that the aerial on the rear crossmember is to detect the approach of the CID from the rear of the car to enable unlocking.
It says in the description that the car can't be locked if the CID has been left in the boot, so I suspect that the aerial in the boot is to detect whether the CID is in there or not.
Seems as though the original system was designed, then they thought about all the possible problems that could occur and added individual components to combat those problems.
It says in the description that the car can't be locked if the CID has been left in the boot, so I suspect that the aerial in the boot is to detect whether the CID is in there or not.
Seems as though the original system was designed, then they thought about all the possible problems that could occur and added individual components to combat those problems.
As my father (RR aircraft engineer) would have said, "a rubber glove for a leaky fountain pen."
-Alex
