Uninsured?[2011]

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Uninsured?[2011]

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Drivers to be banned from keeping uninsured cars off road

The owners of a million uninsured cars face having their vehicles seized and crushed under a crackdown to be announced by the Government this week.

Mike Penning, the road safety minister, is expected to change the law to make it an offence for the first time to keep an uninsured vehicle rather than simply to drive while uninsured.

Sources at the Department for Transport (DfT) claim that the move will help reduce the £30 estimated annual cost to every responsible motorists in additional premiums to cover crashes involving uninsured drivers.

Uninsured and untraced drivers kill 160 people and injure 23,000 every year, according to the department.

Under the new system the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) will work alongside the Motor Insurers' Bureau to identify uninsured vehicles, many of which are never taken out on to the road. Their owners will then be contacted by letter to warn them they face a £100 fine if the car or van is not insured by a certain date.

If the vehicle remains uninsured, regardless of whether a fine has been paid or not, it could then be seized and crushed, according to the DfT.

Around 4 per cent of British motorists -about 1.2million - drive uninsured. The penalty for doing so is a maximum fine of £5,000 and six to eight penalty points. Around 242,000 offenders are convicted every year.

Police gained powers at the end of 2005 to seize uninsured cars, but to use their powers they have to catch the driver at the wheel. Under the new offence of keeping a vehicle while uninsured, the onus will be on drivers to prove that they have insurance, or have completed a statutory off-road notification.

In November, Mr Penning told MPs: "We are working closely with the insurance companies to make it mandatory for vehicles to be insured. There are millions of vehicles on our roads that are not insured.

"People say, 'Well, it's sitting outside on the road outside my house. I'm not using it. It's taxed but doesn't need to be insured.' It has to be insured, because if someone decides to use it even for an emergency they will not be covered. We are moving fast on that."

A poll of 2,000 people by Direct Line, the insurance company, in November, asked what amount should be imposed as a fine for driving without insurance - and produced an average figure of £900.

In addition, 34 per cent wanted those caught to have to take their driving test again, while 28 per cent supported life bans for offenders
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Sunday Telegraph 2011/01/09
 
Thin end of the wedge maybe?
Just a short step from having to be insured whilst kept off road, to also having to have the Road Fund tax kept valid... and maybe leading to all cars whether off or on the road should also have to have a current MoT....

Where might it all end...?
 
"the onus will be on drivers to prove that they have insurance, or have completed a statutory off-road notification. "

No :)

Yea... good call ben, the idea being to make un-insured cars more easily identifiable if driven, SORN will also do that.

The idea is to make cars that are available to be used when un-insured an easy catch.

I'm well up for that...

3 phase approach with a letter first, then a £100 fine, followed by seizure of the car if the owner doesn't respond.
 
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But how could you have a non-insured car on the road now anyway, you need insurance to get the tax... and doesn't every car have to have tax or be sorn'd?

They should be ben but the crooks dont give a damn... fake or stolen Tax discs fool the roadside cameras.

The most popular way of driving un-insured is to buy Insurance on-line by installments and cancel once you get the documentation. It doesnt fool the Cops but done quickly enough it might help get a Tax disc. Criminals aren't always the brightest tools in the toolbox.

Personally I despise un-insured drivers.
 
ANPR cameras don't detect tax discs, they read the reg number and compare that with the DVLA database.

Always being one to keep a watchfull eye on the near future :-
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...: New Speed Camera To Catch Multiple Offences

Currently being tested in Finland allegedly...

"The Asset camera - which could soon be headed for the UK - can pick out drivers not wearing seatbelts and can measure the distance between cars to spot tailgaters, while a numberplate recognition system targets those with no insurance or out-of-date tax. Oh, and it can measure how fast you're going, too."
 
I hate this i have no date to sort out sorn or insurance

You will not receive a refund unless one of the following applies:

you are keeping the vehicle off the public road and you will not
tax it within the next 21 days. You must fill in section 3, or

mine will not be the case.
so goverment keep tax from me
i have to re tax
and get insurance

at mo its taxed broken and uninsured.

 
can get tax without insurance if you do it online...... dont need your renewal letter either just your numbers from your v5...

ive seen and reported a driver near me who regularly drives uninsured and untaxed. 3 years on and they still havent caught him....


and if you have your car sorned and its not needed to be insured thats fine. but what if my tax runs out in december but in march i decide to take it off the road for a few months.. i suppoe i would have to sorn it for a while? suppose it will make it easier for the police but ball ache for everyone else.
 
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