General Underseal, what is it and where can I get it done?
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General Underseal, what is it and where can I get it done?
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I would advise you to forget the perfection on that job. It's definitely the law of diminishing returns.
Besides, you'll probably weep at what you find anyway
Is it that bad?
Is it that bad?
You'll soon find out, as I said before make sure you wear some goggles and a mask on your mouth unless you want to be eating mud and rust
But yes considering your cars age you'd be surprised what you find under there, years of nothing but crap :yuck:
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Put it this way, it may not be as good as you hope!
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This sounds quite wrong now hahaha sorry my mind is still young and immature at times and obviously it has shown here haha!
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We owt to start the punto Underseal thread soon as summer hits
I will be doing a clean and seal myself -- maybe we should consider doing the thread so we can all see each others handy work
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I will be doing a clean and seal myself -- maybe we should consider doing the thread so we can all see each others handy work
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Google bilt hamber dynax
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wasnt it you andy who did a thread on it?
Got a link?
Does it spray out like a spray can so you can do underneath
1 or 2 cans needed?
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Yes that was me
https://www.fiatforum.com/car-care/282179-winter-coming.html
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=245681
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=236423
If you do go down the dynax route have a bloody good read of this BEFORE YOU START
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=236894
but it is job best left until the summer IMO as the car needs to be very dry...... very dry as you dont want to trap any moisture under any old underseal
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Clean - let it dry for a few hours in the 30deg sun then spray?
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I really want to underseal my car now but it seems like a huge job for me :/
Definitely wait till the summer, I intend to waxoyl mine this year as the odd little spot of rust is starting to appear on the floor pan, just tarnishing really but don't want it to end up like bennyyboy's
Why waxoyl? Because I come from a landrover world where waxoyl is king, also comes in clear so keeps the underside looking stock
Why waxoyl? Because I come from a landrover world where waxoyl is king, also comes in clear so keeps the underside looking stock
Your choice. But Waxoyl comes out pretty badly in all comparative tests. The clear stuff (well, sort of opaque bile) is surely designed for cavity injection?
Can't find any comparative tests that suggest its any worse than anything else?
All the professional rust proofing companies seem to use it.
The stuff you buy in 5L tins black or clear is all the same stuff maybe you're thinking about the black waxoyl underseal which is bituminous and I wouldn't let anywhere near my car!?
It's also made by Hammerite who as we all know make some pretty damn good products when it comes to metal and rust.
Landrover owners love the stuff many have their cars coated from new and many an old defender has been saved by a good coating of the stuff
It has to be better than nothing. But the non bituminous stuff will get washed off -- it never "really" dries and has little abrasion resistance. Which is fine, even desireable, if used within a cavity. Not so cool on chassis.
I'm pretty sure Practical Classics did tests on it a while back. As for Hammerite, well, it doesn't seem to be anything like as effective as some of the better American products -- Bilt Hammer, Epoxy Mastic, Eastwood. I used to use it, but generally was not well pleased by the ease with which it chipped and abraded off (low quality resin, low solid "mastic" content).
I'm pretty sure Practical Classics did tests on it a while back. As for Hammerite, well, it doesn't seem to be anything like as effective as some of the better American products -- Bilt Hammer, Epoxy Mastic, Eastwood. I used to use it, but generally was not well pleased by the ease with which it chipped and abraded off (low quality resin, low solid "mastic" content).
there are test plates shown on the bilt hamber website ok it shows their product in good light your car your choice
one thing about waxoil been used by garages... Everyone and grandad knows of waxoil its a known brand but old.. Newer products might be better
apparently bilt hamber started life making products for off shore applications so i hope its decent ;-)
one thing about waxoil been used by garages... Everyone and grandad knows of waxoil its a known brand but old.. Newer products might be better
apparently bilt hamber started life making products for off shore applications so i hope its decent ;-)
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I saw the test plates, but you always have to be wary of tests published by a company, especially when their product comes out tops!
A bit like tobacco companies finding no link between their products and cancer.
Could you point us at any independent tests?
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So which is the best underseal to use?
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I can tell you that it is the wrong question to ask.
The right question is "what will be good enough"
