who said i was weaving in and out of traffic 
i just said you can pass traffic on your right if your lane is moving faster
i just said you can pass traffic on your right if your lane is moving faster
UK - New 80MPH speed limit
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UK - New 80MPH speed limit
who said i was weaving in and out of traffic
i just said you can pass traffic on your right if your lane is moving faster
I didn't..
I just underlined 'In congested conditions..'
Dom
then you need some more driving lessons then, keep left unless you are over taking, not because you cant be arsed because you might have to move over to over take again a bit later on
Read the posts leading to this Dave...
We was on about doing 26 ish, nothing to do with Motorways back there.
Dom
I have to say I'm not really all that enthusiastic about the speed limit being raised. Not because more people will die, I think the difference will be minimal.
But the problem is that people already do 80 on the motorway as it is. It'll be 90 next and you just start increasing the speed differential.
Plus 10 mph is hardly going to make that much of a difference to journey times really.
I think the best thing to do IF they raise the speed limit to 80 would be to have variable speed limits like in France where if it's raining the speed limit is automatically dropped.
But the problem is that people already do 80 on the motorway as it is. It'll be 90 next and you just start increasing the speed differential.
Plus 10 mph is hardly going to make that much of a difference to journey times really.
I think the best thing to do IF they raise the speed limit to 80 would be to have variable speed limits like in France where if it's raining the speed limit is automatically dropped.
Completely agree. It seems like some people NEED to get past if you're doing 2mph under the speed limit..... I agree that we need minimum speed limits in good dry conditions though, no way should someone be doing 40 in a 60 zone, it forces people to overtake and that creates a danger.
Unless going round a corner of course. But yeah, if I can get up to 60 safely then I will do.
Dom
Of course. Straight bit of road in good visibility when it's dry should be at least a 50 road for EVERYONE.
What if its an incline and im in the 126?
Then I'll overtake you, flick you the V's, then brake test you. Get off the road!!!!! etc etc etc
Of course I was referring to level ground
most of my road is 60mph for miles, but if you do 60 on it you run a high risk of hitting people joining it from side roads who just pull out, a lot of them are cyclists
Then I'll overtake you, flick you the V's, then brake test you. Get off the road!!!!! etc etc etc
Of course I was referring to level ground
Alot of roads that seem level are infact not. somethimg you become more aware of the less power you have.
Very true! My 406 used to make it up a massive hill near here and we had never taken the 500 up there purely because people drive like ****s on there and it really really struggled getting up there, can't imagine how hard it'd be to get up there in a 126.
At the end of the day different cars have different capabilities and if you're going as fast as your car will reasonably allow then I have no problem, it's the people who do silly low speeds when their car can do well over the speed limit that cheese me off. They're choosing to make people overtake needlessly.
For what it's worth I see absolutely no problem with raising the motorway limit - and about time too!
The speed limits were based on the capabilities of the Ford Anglia & it's peers - not really in the same ballpark as your average car from any time in the last 20+ years. Most modern cars settle quite happily at about 80-85mph, which is well within their capabilities.
You can't legislate for stupidity so maybe it's about time to stop trying - 70 is far too fast in some conditions, but equally too low for a clear motorway in good weather. As for common sense - there's a distinct lack of it in this country - maybe the driving test should include common sense to get some of the idiots (clearly not anyone on here! ) off the road?!
Of course if everyone is now driving at 55-60mph to save fuel, then it doesn't matter if you de-restrict the motorways completely does it...... :devil:
Why go faster? Well on a 300 mile motorway run my Coupe would do 29mpg at a constant 85 even with the aircon on - I can't get more than 30mpg however it's driven. Why wouldn't anyone take the 45 minutes gained on that 300 mile journey, and have a proper break at the services, if the law allowed you to (obviously......)?
The speed limits were based on the capabilities of the Ford Anglia & it's peers - not really in the same ballpark as your average car from any time in the last 20+ years. Most modern cars settle quite happily at about 80-85mph, which is well within their capabilities.
You can't legislate for stupidity so maybe it's about time to stop trying - 70 is far too fast in some conditions, but equally too low for a clear motorway in good weather. As for common sense - there's a distinct lack of it in this country - maybe the driving test should include common sense to get some of the idiots (clearly not anyone on here!
) off the road?!Of course if everyone is now driving at 55-60mph to save fuel, then it doesn't matter if you de-restrict the motorways completely does it...... :devil:
Why go faster? Well on a 300 mile motorway run my Coupe would do 29mpg at a constant 85 even with the aircon on - I can't get more than 30mpg however it's driven. Why wouldn't anyone take the 45 minutes gained on that 300 mile journey, and have a proper break at the services, if the law allowed you to (obviously......)?
Palio, I think sometimes the govt has a responsibility to make the sensible decision.
There is only so much oil on the planet and why should we needlessly burn it? I very much doubt that you will ever gain 45 minutes on a 300 mile journey anyway.
Personally I'd be quite happy if the price of fuel and road tax for thirstier new cars was raised. That money should of course be given back to us in terms of tax breaks and better roads and so on. Of course people should still be able to afford to drive, BUT they need to make it expensive enough so that the idea of driving so fast you use 20 or 30 percent more fuel seems rather stupid.
There is only so much oil on the planet and why should we needlessly burn it? I very much doubt that you will ever gain 45 minutes on a 300 mile journey anyway.
Personally I'd be quite happy if the price of fuel and road tax for thirstier new cars was raised. That money should of course be given back to us in terms of tax breaks and better roads and so on. Of course people should still be able to afford to drive, BUT they need to make it expensive enough so that the idea of driving so fast you use 20 or 30 percent more fuel seems rather stupid.
Fair enough, but where did you get 20-30% from? My example was a 3% difference which equates to about £2.08 extra in fuel on that 300 mile journey - that doesn't bother me, but it's a personal view. You would save that time at a constant 85mph, and on quiet motorway only journeys you can do a constant speed with no acceleration/braking - probably why the fuel difference is minimal & of course the Coupe engine is just cruising at that speed.
I'm saving the planet (well maybe! ) by keeping old cars on the road rather than keep buying new ones - several of the oldies will do mid 40's around town, which many new cars can't get near. That's why you'll usually see me in a Panda or 127.
I'm saving the planet (well maybe!
) by keeping old cars on the road rather than keep buying new ones - several of the oldies will do mid 40's around town, which many new cars can't get near. That's why you'll usually see me in a Panda or 127.
Fair enough, but where did you get 20-30% from? My example was a 3% difference which equates to about £2.08 extra in fuel on that 300 mile journey - that doesn't bother me, but it's a personal view. You would save that time at a constant 85mph, and on quiet motorway only journeys you can do a constant speed with no acceleration/braking - probably why the fuel difference is minimal & of course the Coupe engine is just cruising at that speed.
I'm saving the planet (well maybe!
A lot of cars use significantly more fuel @85 or 90 than at 70. Personally I doubt that unless you're driving when there's no one on the road whether you'll ever be cruising along at a steady 80.
Agree re: keeping old cars on the road too
ive not seen a quiet motorway for years even at 3am
oh apart from 1 time i went to ace cafe and it snowed i got home in an hour instead of the normal 1 1/2 - 2 because everyone else stayed in
oh apart from 1 time i went to ace cafe and it snowed i got home in an hour instead of the normal 1 1/2 - 2 because everyone else stayed in
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ive not seen a quiet motorway for years even at 3am
oh apart from 1 time i went to ace cafe and it snowed i got home in an hour instead of the normal 1 1/2 - 2 because everyone else stayed in
the drive to brooklands during the royal wedding wasn't to bad
Rather than introduce a whole new limit, I think it could be possible to increase the limit on long stretches that have few junctions or at least long slip roads. IMO, most people travel at or above 80mph anyway (I personally dont as the engine noise gets annoying) so joining shouldnt be too difficult.
If anything, joining a dual carriageway like on a38 is much more difficult than a motorway, and people tend to do same speeds on dual carriageways as they do on motorways
If anything, joining a dual carriageway like on a38 is much more difficult than a motorway, and people tend to do same speeds on dual carriageways as they do on motorways
