The Dash Camera Thread (Videos)

[Most Easterly Pandas]

One thing I did notice.... Her airbag didn't deploy.... I assume SMART cars have to have them so was the actual impact not severe enough?

Yep they all have twin airbags as standard. The impact wasn't really sever enough to be honest, airbags are strange things, will go off sometimes when you'd have thought they wouldn't have, and won't at others, but it's down to deceleration rate.

I don't think she was doing that higher speed when she made contact, think she'd just hit the brakes just before. Still made a big bang though, and I'd got my music with the sub on at a level one normally only does when on your own in the the car

 

[dave]

who here would flash the hazard lights?

Ziggy

not me as last time i read highway code on them there was only 2 reasons you could use them, has that changed?

edit

96: Hazard warning lights. These may be used when your vehicle is stationary, to warn that it is temporarily obstructing traffic. Never use them as an excuse for dangerous or illegal parking. You MUST NOT use hazard warning lights whilst driving unless you are on a motorway or unrestricted dual carriageway and you need to warn drivers behind you of a hazard or obstruction ahead. Only use them for long enough to ensure that your warning has been observed.
Law RVLR reg 27

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Probably activated her Seat tension puff pastry - making her sit?

99% of the time they only go off with the airbags also.

And SMARTs have Tridion Safety Cells, faraday cages are for transferring electricity around you I knew what you ment though

 

[Ziggy122]

not me as last time i read highway code on them there was
only 2 reasons you could use them, has that changed?

is it one of ""those rules"" that drivers understand, but under the highway code means nothing?

99% of the time they only go off with the airbags also.

And SMARTs have Tridion Safety Cells, faraday cages are for transferring electricity around you I knew what you ment though

close enough for me
the movement of energy

Ziggy

 

[ThisBitterPill]

Just a question - saw it was traffic you had stopped for - as it stopped suddenly - who here would flash the hazard lights?

Probably not in the Panda, as it's over on the centre console and by the time I'd found it, I would have stopped!

 

[Andy Monty]

not me as last time i read highway code on them there was only 2 reasons you could use them, has that changed?

well if i anchor up hard the evo flashes its hazzards double quick it doesn't discrimate between motorways and B roads

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

well if i anchor up hard the evo flashes its hazzards double quick it doesn't discrimate between motorways and B roads

Was thinking this evening, would ABSing it have been better, less stopping distance for her and less time, but strobing hazards might have woken her up

 

[dave]

is it one of ""those rules"" that drivers understand, but under the highway code means nothing?


Ziggy

see edit

well if i anchor up hard the evo flashes its hazzards double quick it doesn't discrimate between motorways and B roads

mine field,

 

[Ziggy122]

Was thinking this evening, would ABSing it have been better, less stopping distance for her and less time, but strobing hazards might have woken her up

Punto's do that anyway - with age they like to disco alot !

i spot that car with a fixed hazard.... what the?
as that different colour stands out alot!

Ziggy

 

[Andy Monty]

mine field,

European legislation

same with the Corsa and fords emergency braking it strobes the brake lights.....

cornering lights HIDS led tail lamps the lot

 

[Andy Monty]

Was thinking this evening, would ABSing it have been better, less stopping distance for her and less time, but strobing hazards might have woken her up

must admit there have been a couple of times ive deliberately got the hazards to cut in for that reason... (that and the little magic disco switch :devil: )

 

[Andy Monty]

even if your car has day glow stripes on the back and a big blue flashing light bar on the top and in the back window... it wont always work.....

RIP PC GOODLAD

 

[PuntoHowTo]

One thing I did notice.... Her airbag didn't deploy.... I assume SMART cars have to have them so was the actual impact not severe enough?

Smart cars have very little in the way of crumple zones and even with Ziggy122 faraday cage (Tridion Safety Cells) you need to dissipate the impact energy into something, and the smart doesn't have very much 'something', so they in all likely hood should have deployed in this instance however Airbags being a one shot thing don't always deploy and you can't really test them. which is why you should always wear a seat belt

 

[Andy Monty]

Smart cars have very little in the way of crumple zones and even with Ziggy122 faraday cage (Tridion Safety Cells) you need to dissipate the impact energy into something, and the smart doesn't have very much 'something', so they in all likely hood should have deployed in this instance however Airbags being a one shot thing don't always deploy and you can't really test them. which is why you should always wear a seat belt

Wonder if it got a sticker?

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Wonder if it got a sticker?

Nah no fire brigade.

Police let her drive away from the scene, although a quick gander looked like my towbar wasn't far from (thats assuming it didn't) hitting her steering rack.

 

[Andy Monty]

Nah no fire brigade.

Police let her drive away from the scene, although a quick gander looked like my towbar wasn't far from (thats assuming it didn't) hitting her steering rack.

its pulling to the left a bit daddy :devil:

 

[Didge3]

Smart cars have very little in the way of crumple zones and even with @Ziggy122 faraday cage (Tridion Safety Cells) you need to dissipate the impact energy into something, and the smart doesn't have very much 'something'

I disagree entirely, Smart cars (well newer ones anyway around 2006 onwards) are very strong. I'd much rather be in a Smart car than a lot of other small cars (including small cars that are bigger than a Smart car) in an accident.
A Smart ForTwo has a 4 star frontal impact NCAP rating, which is around the same as most small hatchbacks nowadays.
I do agree that after an impact there isn't much left of the car but the occupants are left intact.

 

[PuntoHowTo]

Smart cars (well newer ones anyway around 2006 onwards) are very strong. I'd much rather be in a Smart car than a lot of other small cars (including small cars that are bigger than a Smart car) in an accident.
A Smart ForTwo has a 4 star frontal impact NCAP rating, which is around the same as most small hatchbacks nowadays.

you've confused strength with impact dissipation in fact the stronger the car the less able it is to dissipate the impact of an accident, simply put the energy has to go somewhere, and this is why modern cars are designed to fold up (in a predictable way)

The Smart fortwo is incredibly strong but as with a much bigger car impact energy is focused into twisting and bending metal to absorb the energy or deflecting the energy around the safety cell, the smart doesn't have the same ability to do this. the Smart car is very strong and 5th gear proved it when they crashed one into concrete at 70mph, however the outcome was an intact passenger safety cell, but the occupants would have still died because a huge amount of impact energy and g-force was passed though the passengers and would have resulted in huge internal injuries

if i put you in a barrel and through you off a building you'd be pretty badly injured, but pack you in with loads of soft squidgy foam and you might not be injured at all, the only difference being the foam absorbs the impact and not you. smart car is very little and has very little 'padding' something like an S class merc has loads of padding so the impact the passengers are subject to are much less

The Smart’s is very strong and stiff in frontal impact so the restraint systems have to work hard and weaknesses were found in the loading on the passenger’s chest and the driver’s upper legs. Of concern, in side impact the dummy’s head hit the rail above the door, however if the optional side impact airbag is fitted then improved padding is provided in this area. As we tested with a passenger dummy it was not possible to test the special Smart child restraint which has to fit on the passenger’s seat.

Front impact
Both the driver and passenger’s airbags worked well but the restraint system for the passenger caused a high risk of injury to the chest. The driver’s shins contacted a die-cast beam which goes across the width of the car. Although this has padding and a deformable element in front of it, the loading on one of the driver’s upper legs was still very high. However the footwell was hardly deformed with little risk to the feet and ankles.

Front impact
The passenger cell remained stable during the impact. Structures in the dashboard presented a risk of injury to the knees and femurs of the driver and passenger.

the newer one is much better but the restraint systems provide much of the protection because of the rigidity of the car, as a result you're much more likely to see soft tissue injury including internal organs

 

[Didge3]

Tl ; Dr

EDIT: FiatForum won't let me capitalize the above for some reason.

 

[slugworth1987]

Couldn't get the footage but some twit on his mobile phone on the m1 today, gave him a blast of the airhorns as I went past he threw his phone out the window!!! Looked like an S3 or iPhone lolllllll