Technical Swapping the cam gasket to putty

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Technical Swapping the cam gasket to putty

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Well my engines well soaked again from the crappy cam gasket leaking like a sieve....

Ive never got it to seal up and stay dry for very long
Gwt a few months before it leaks again

Has anybody tried just using instant gasket/putty and had better or worse sucess??
Ive tried gasket and goo but that again didnt last...

Ive gotta honestly get my engin degunked and jetted down as its dripping and tbh it stinks now its red hot outside

Ziggy
 
Honestly, I am yet to see a clean FIRE engine. I tried two different brands of engine silicone sealant (red and black, I do not remember their names) on my various cars and, although it helped, the result was never 100% tightness.
 
I'm on third or fourth seal, this time with black silicone.
Did consider welding it on :)

What happens to the seals?

Bit of a mystery why the cover cannot be sealed up. Seems to be a very solidly built cover which will compress the seal all the way around.

Ziggys home built seal might be the way to go. Permatex make a flexible sealant for oil pans and rocker covers.
 
With most cam covers, overtightening can distort it and cause leaks. Any leak can often result in tweaking the screws, later making things worse.

First thing to do is check the cam cover is flat. If it isn't sealing it will be difficult even with lots of goo.

A good quality gasket should do the job. If only! Usually, a new gasket and a thin smear of sealant will seal it. Don't overdo the sealant, as too much can make things worse. If using a gasket and sealant, fit it almost immediately after the sealant is applied and tighten it down gently. Leave it to set, then tighten fully.

If you decide not to use any gasket, you will need to create a bead of sealant that protrudes out of the gasket groove by the same amount as a gasket would, or a little more. But not lots more. Leave this to partially set. Should be touch dry, but prodding can break the surface. Determine this by placing a similar size bead somewhere that can be used as a test. Once touch dry, place cover on, put bolts in, but spin them down only until they touch, almost no pressure. Now leave a while longer for it to bond and set some more. Once fully set, and therefore flexible rather than smearing, you can tighten it down. Again use your test sample to determine this.

This procedure creates a gasket out of the sealant, but effectively glues it to the surfaces. If it fully sets before you place it on, you've just created your own gasket and not really fixed anything. If you tighten it too soon, you'll just squeeze it out, so you'll effectively get a metal to metal joint with a tiny bit of sealant in it. The rest of the sealant will be messy outside, or squeezed inside, ready to set in your oilways. So pop it on whilst still slightly sticky, allow to set fully so it is flexible, and you should get the best of both worlds.

Of course, both surfaces need to be clean and dry. Any oil residue will prevent it sticking. But you knew this already.

All takes a lot longer than just popping a new gasket on, but if then fixed until you next need to remove it, it'll be worthwhile. Rover Maestro/Montego 1.6 'S' series engines had very leaky cam covers. This procedure fixed them.
 
Ive gone from feather tight
To just nipped


When they start pissing ive tightened up again
But it only stems it for a short while

I think its because the front sits lower than the back - oil runs down the front all the time
Constant heat cycle causes the cover to ""move""
As a smal weap keepa getting through

I keep hosing the cover off with brake clean to help remove that oil residue

Ziggy
 
Well a little update
So when i came to take the old gasket off...
I found 2 bolts werent even tight....
Like not even finger tight
So theyve rattled loose and this is the cause od why my rocker gasket has pissed everywhere...

So ive gone down the putty route to test this thoery....
Lets hope it works
U have to put a serious amount on due to the fact the rocker has lugs to prevent the seal been totally squashed flat...

Hopefully it works....
If not ive got a bigger mess to clean up....

Did find my aux belt has shredded 2 ribs clean off.. so urgentky need a new one....

Ziggy
 
Well a little update
So when i came to take the old gasket off...
I found 2 bolts werent even tight....
Like not even finger tight
So theyve rattled loose and this is the cause od why my rocker gasket has pissed everywhere...

So ive gone down the putty route to test this thoery....
Lets hope it works
U have to put a serious amount on due to the fact the rocker has lugs to prevent the seal been totally squashed flat...

Hopefully it works....
If not ive got a bigger mess to clean up....

Did find my aux belt has shredded 2 ribs clean off.. so urgentky need a new one....

Ziggy

so bolts get loose, what about using that anti loose glue for bolts
 
so bolts get loose, what about using that anti loose glue for bolts

Threadlocker - Too late for me now....
I've got sealant on mine - and so far i think i've hit the nail on the head!
I just hope it stays like that

Just god help me IF i ever have todo a HG..... Guess who's picking a **** tonne of sealant out of that groove?

Ziggy
 
Threadlocker - Too late for me now....
I've got sealant on mine - and so far i think i've hit the nail on the head!
I just hope it stays like that

Just god help me IF i ever have todo a HG..... Guess who's picking a **** tonne of sealant out of that groove?

Ziggy

Nahh just cut the surplus off and leave it in the groove and reseal.
 
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