Technical Suspension Recall Confusion

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Technical Suspension Recall Confusion

EndlessNites

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Hi,
I'm completely confused by my suspension recall No.5044. I had it done towards the end of last year. Last week my suspension coil broke and shredded my tire. I called the RAC to check the vehicle they said the plates had been fitted but they hadn't prevented the broken coil from damaging the tire, they gave me an additional copy of the fault report to keep just in case there was a dispute. They towed it back to the dealership that did the recall.

The garage said they were too busy to look at the car for a week to check if it was a fault with the recall. They said the coil had broke and damaged the tire and it was nothing to do with the recall as it was the spring that had broken. I said the recall states "To avoid damage to a tyre in the event of spring breakage, a plate will be fitted which will contain the spring" but it hasn't worked. They still insisted it was nothing to do with the recall and want to charge £740 for the repair and £93 for the diagnosis.

I called Fiat Customer Relations to see if the garage was correct, they filed a report and got back to me today stating it was entirely separate from the recall which had fitted cups to the base of the spring. I said I thought the recall was to prevent tire damage in the event of a breakage and they still said it was nothing to do with the recall.

Am I being dumb? I know nothing about car mechanics but it seems to me as if there was no point in having the recall done in the first place. People I talk to all seem to think Fiat are at fault, but I wanted to get some other opinions, am I wrong or Fiat???

I'm not paying their repair rates that's for sure and getting it towed to my usual garage. It just annoys me I didn't get the RAC to tow it there in the first place it was already booked in for another repair which I had to cancel and I wouldn't have had a £90 bill for telling me something I'd already been told by the RAC as well as the tow fee.

Thanks for reading,
Endless
 
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Does seem rather odd. We gets lot of reports of the spring catcher working correctly so does tend to question if it was fitted properly.

The recall work wont stop the springs breaking so you should expect to pay for that although I'd get it checked out properly (maybe get a 2nd opinion if the catcher is fitted correctly).

You could claim for the tyre I guess :chin:
 
Yeh I'll get my garage to check it thanks, someone told me it didn't look like they had retracted the springs enough before they installed it. I don't have an issue with the spring breaking just the damage its done when I thought that was going to be prevented ...it was a new tire too :yuck:

Thanks for the response
 
The most common place for the spring to break is at the bottom coil and the catcher appears to be only designed to catch that part of the spring. If your spring broke at the top, the broken part could bounce around and avoid the catcher.

The catchers are also handed and marked with stick on paper labels, LH and RH. If they are fitted the wrong side of the car, they can move and possibly miss a broken bottom coil. Problem with this is that some (including mine) were labeled incorrectly. i.e. LH label was on the right hand catcher and RH label on the left.

Do your catchers appear to have moved or are they still horizontal?
Which sides are your labels?
 
Unfortunately companies wont pay out unless they have too. If Fiat say there not going to do it that means they know right or wrong that they can get away with it.
By all means try your best but they will string you along and then just say no, or they will just keep sending you round in blatant circles. :bang:
 
To prevent loss of life have your springs replaced with a reputeable make; and not by a Fiat dealer. Rather than deal with the cause of the problem Fiat expect a heath robinson botch job to catch a spring in the event of a break.

In this day and age where recalls and passenger safety are everyday news I would pursue Fiat UK with a better response than they have provided so far.
 
Yeh I'll get my garage to check it thanks, someone told me it didn't look like they had retracted the springs enough before they installed it.

The springs are not disturbed when fitting the catcher. ;)

The catchers are also handed and marked with stick on paper labels, LH and RH. If they are fitted the wrong side of the car, they can move and possibly miss a broken bottom coil. Problem with this is that some (including mine) were labeled incorrectly. i.e. LH label was on the right hand catcher and RH label on the left.

All the labels are incorrect, it was even stated in the fitting instructions to fit them to the opposite side. ;)
 
The spring catcher was designed to catch the remaining spring and prevent it going over the base and into the tyre. To catch flying spring fragments you'd need a circus safety net. So in certain respects, what they're saying is most likely correct, there was nothing wrong with mod as it's only there to stop a broken spring base sliding over the bottom mount. If the remaining spring pierced into the tyre then it would stop the wheel stone dead and so would you be most likely

All cars springs break these days, I've had Renault, Peugeot and Fiat all break on me in the last few years whilst I'm driving. Surprised I'm still alive really. "Spring break" used to mean something nice but not any more:)

COST BREAKDOWN
Two springs £70 (both sides)
fitting £60 (both sides)
new tyre £60
new drop links £25 (both sides)
= £740?? something wrong with the calculator:confused:

I'd walk away, buy your own springs, get them fitted with a new tyre, on your way in 3 hours
 
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Hi Argo
I was referring to OP post No 1 quote of £740 which is as much a mystery to me as everyone else as I can't go to numbers that high with my beans and scriber calculator :)
 
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