Study finds that red light cameras cause crashes

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Study finds that red light cameras cause crashes

If only life was always text book:rolleyes:

my post was, i had hoped, an answer to your apparant question (why else use a question mark?)

but, since it appears you weren't, that's why you use one to learn, and put it into practice as best you can, taking into account your skills, or lack of, the condition of the road, the users around you, the vehicle you are in. put it all together, and over time hopefully, you will have the abilty to judge, when and where it may be ok to put your foot down, and where you may wish to consider another course of action. one that may well preserve the licence you hold so dear.....
 
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my post was, i had hoped, an answer to your apparant question (why else use a question mark?)

but, since it appears you weren't, that's why you use one to learn, and put it into practice as best you can, taking into account your skills, or lack of, the condition of the road, the users around you, the vehicle you are in. put it all together, and over time hopefully, you will have the abilty to judge, when and where it may be ok to put your foot down, and where you may wish to consider another course of action. one that may well preserve the licence you hold so dear.....

nice reply :p
 
one that may well preserve the licence you hold so dear.....

[rant]See this is what annoys me - some people care about their licence but not their own life and certainly not the lives and possessions of others. People who are concerned about not stopping for a red light and getting a few points but seemingly unconcerned that they couldn't stop for a child who stepped out between parked cars or a car that pulled out of a side road.[/rant]

Why not brake lightly or lift off a short way away from the lights or any other hazards eg. line of parked cars, blind bend? Perhaps the IAM advanced driving course would come in handy here to teach how to anticipate hazards?

EDIT - I know I'm no perfect driver, I do dim things sometimes and we all make UNINTENTIONAL mistakes, but there are things you can do to minimise them and not make intentional errors.
 
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my post was, i had hoped, an answer to your apparant question (why else use a question mark?)

but, since it appears you weren't, that's why you use one to learn, and put it into practice as best you can, taking into account your skills, or lack of, the condition of the road, the users around you, the vehicle you are in. put it all together, and over time hopefully, you will have the abilty to judge, when and where it may be ok to put your foot down, and where you may wish to consider another course of action. one that may well preserve the licence you hold so dear.....

Sorry, didn't mean to offend. I see where you were coming from with your reply.
 
as for speedcameras, its often not the speedcameras, its GPS + radar detectors shouting at you, most people immediatly slam on the anchors as they are not making themselves properly aware of the limits, instead relying on a bit of software that was out of date teh minute they bought it :bang:

How badly was I finding that out today :bang: The amount of people who were suddenly braking from 90ish to 60ish in the middle of a clear, quiet motorway for no obvious reason. 150ish miles into the journey it occurred to me why when I went past some speed camera signs (no van) and someone did it and I spotted a flashing red light in their car going off. Bloody numpties nearly caused a few pile-ups :mad:
 
Come on folks, if you drive down the road and only react to lights when they change in front of you, then you shouldn't be surprised if the driver behind who's as rubbish at driving as you punts you up the backside. On the other hand if you look in the mirror as the lights change to amber and realise the numpty behind will hit you if you stop and therefore you get flashed by the camera; then you're as crap at driving as the guy behind. A few facts about traffic lights. At 30mph you're travelling at 42' or 13 mtr/sec. An amber light in a 30 limit is on for 1.5 seconds. In 1.5 seconds you will have travelled 63' or 19.5 metres. According to the Highway Code, overall stopping distance is 75' or 23 mtrs. Braking distance is 45' or 14 metres. So, very simply, you get about 25 mtrs. from the line and check your rear view mirror and put your foot
over the brake pedal. By the time you are about 25' or 8 mtrs. from the lline you will be doing 25 mph and will be able to stop if the lights change. Beyond that point, if you accelerate back to 30 you will get through safely without being flashed. I know it sounds complicated but just give it a moments thought when you next come to a set of lights then try it when it's quiet. It won't take long to become well practiced and then you can watch other drivers come to a grinding halt at lights and hold your breath as it looks like someone else will get rear ended instead of you.
 

Trust you to bring this up. This is what happens, when your driving along, and some tit decided to suddenly stop and turn right without indicating or lane positioning properly.

Wet ground, no ABS. Yes was blantently my fault! I have no problem admiting it even if I do blame the cause on someone else. Happened on a traffic light junction aswell, good thread to put it in.

Can over inflated tyres (0.5 psi to high) cause wheels to lock up easier? Just the air compressor at tesco put to much air in when I checked. (tyres pumped up before accident, and checked after).


Hang on. More to the point. Whats this thread got to do with sight problems? I did stop at the lights!
 
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"control, control, you must learn control"

the thread has nothing to do with your sight, forward vision is your ability to continously process the road ahead, information it's giving you, spot actual and potential hazards and dangers, adjust your driving to suit, and reduce your chances of smacking into something.....

remember that book i recommended to you?
 
I usually slow down a bit when I'm coming upto a green light so I've got enough time to brake if it suddenly changes.
See? Not that difficult is it? Someone using a little thought! Not only does it make it less likely you will go through on red, but also cuts down the risk of someone running into you from behind.

[rant]See this is what annoys me - some people care about their licence but not their own life and certainly not the lives and possessions of others. People who are concerned about not stopping for a red light and getting a few points but seemingly unconcerned that they couldn't stop for a child who stepped out between parked cars or a car that pulled out of a side road.[/rant]

Why not brake lightly or lift off a short way away from the lights or any other hazards eg. line of parked cars, blind bend? Perhaps the IAM advanced driving course would come in handy here to teach how to anticipate hazards?

EDIT - I know I'm no perfect driver, I do dim things sometimes and we all make UNINTENTIONAL mistakes, but there are things you can do to minimise them and not make intentional errors.
More sanity, whatever next? I don't know the age of Forum members, but here are a few figures for the younger ones. 12% of the total licenced drivers
in the U.K. is under 25 yet 32% of drivers who die in a crash is under 25! Not to mention the fact that 49% of drivers killed at night is under 25. 1,077 people (out of a total of approx. 3,500)died in 2005 in crashes involving a driver under 25. 27% of drivers aged 17-19 are involved in a collision as a driver in their first year. (Source: Government Select Committee on Transportation report on Novice Drivers. 2007)
This is not a rant by some boring old f**t, alright, it is a bit, but most young and/or novice male drivers tend to be very cavalier about road safety and often, but not exclusively tend to blame everyone else for their misfortunes. I know this because I was that young driver.
 
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"control, control, you must learn control"

the thread has nothing to do with your sight, forward vision is your ability to continously process the road ahead, information it's giving you, spot actual and potential hazards and dangers, adjust your driving to suit, and reduce your chances of smacking into something.....

remember that book i recommended to you?

I might have to get a copy of that book.
 
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