Technical Starter Motor

[realdude]

I am trying to replace my starter motor on the fiorino, I have removed one of the nuts connecting the wires to the battery.
I have removed one nut that is holding the motor in place - visible in the photo
I physically cannot find the other nut which is holding the starter motor in place, there seems to be transmission housing etc which is in the way, seem impossible to find the other bolt/s to remove the motor.
My fiorino is 2019

What should I remove to make this job possible, there is too much in the way

 

[bugsymike]

I am trying to replace my starter motor on the fiorino, I have removed one of the nuts connecting the wires to the battery.
I have removed one nut that is holding the motor in place - visible in the photo
I physically cannot find the other nut which is holding the starter motor in place, there seems to be transmission housing etc which is in the way, seem impossible to find the other bolt/s to remove the motor.
My fiorino is 2019

What should I remove to make this job possible, there is too much in the way

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You didn't say if it was a petrol or diesel, recently I changed the gearbox on a 2014 1.3 diesel Vauxhall Combo (Fiat Doblo rebadged) on that model the top starter bolt is actually hidden down a tube roughly in line with the clutch slave cylinder in this photo just below the top bell housing bolt fixing.
If that is the case then you may need to remove the battery and it's base for better access.
In my case that top starter stays in place along with the starter as bell housing/gearbox is not secured by it.
Either way logic says the top starter bolt is in that area, so with battery etc. removed you should be able to see where it is.

 

[realdude]

thanks mate, I found the hole, and replaced the starter motor!
seems like a crazy design!

 

[bugsymike]

thanks mate, I found the hole, and replaced the starter motor!
seems like a crazy design!

I may be wrong but I think they use the gearbox on different models and there is a sort of adaptor plate used which holds the starter etc.