General Seicento top speed

[lucas87]

Hey guys just gave my abarth sei a good thrashing and no matter how I tried I couldn't get over 90 it just sits there and is only at 4k revs it's got a full janspeed cat back induction kit and readytorace chip should I be getting more or does that sound about right?

 

[Cento186]

Sounds like you have an SX box for a start.

Secondly it should be able to do 100, especially considering that you have mods.

 

[lucas87]

Why would it have an sx box on an abarth? Also would the induction kit make it loose power?

 

[Young Efficient]

Got any pictures of it so we can have a gander?

 

[lucas87]

Yeh will take one now guys it had a full tank of fuel aswell and needs a service

 

[lucas87]

This is it guys

 

[Razman]

Top speeds I managed in my 2 cinqs, in 3 different states of tune.

1108 SPI with an induction kit only - 100mph (absolute limit, would not go faster)

1242 SPI with a 40mm TB, 866 cam, dexcraft carbon fibre induction kit, stripped out. - 115mph

1242 SPI with 40mm TB, 866 cam, dexcraft carbon fibre induction kit, stripped out, ported head, 4-2-1 manifold, full stainless 1.75 inch bore exhaust system, lightened flywheel. - 120mph

IMO the sporting box tops out at 120, theoretically it could go a bit faster, but in the real world you'll never manage it.

All on my private runway, of course.

Anyway who actually cares about top speed? People always ask me: "oh what have you had out of it mate?", and I usually just say 70. The fun of centos is the handling and acceleration really.

 

[lucas87]

Yeh I was just curious it accelerates like a bas**rd

 

[Cento186]

Why would it have an sx box on an abarth? Also would the induction kit make it loose power?

I have no idea why but a sporting box is at roughly 5k at 90mph iirc. I may well be wrong though.

Personally I would say that induction kit is too big, just like the focus kit for the mpi which I found reduced the top speed compared to the standard airbox. Remember that the TB is only 32mm(?) so having induction piping much bigger in diameter won't be helping the speed of the airflow.

What you want is to splash out on the carbon Novitec airbox

 

[Duncan]

My 16v Cinq has an Abarth Sei box with 13" wheels with 50 profile tyres and won't do much more than 110 on the clock but flies up to it!

 

[Huwbishop]

88mph on GPS in an 899 cinq.

Off the clock on the 1242. But I don't know how accurate the speedo is. Feels like it would pull to the redline.

 

[lucas87]

Right just tried now and shifted at 6.5 k in every gear and at 90 it was at 4.5k revs does that sound about right?

 

[Huwbishop]

Sounds about right to me. But won't pull past 90?

 

[lucas87]

It will but it takes an absolute age seems to almost just run out of puff I'm in two minds weather it's the induction kit with it being a small eligine I've also herd that these readytorace chips give you good gains bottom end but lack top end so a combination of both might be the reason. I'm not going to drive around everywhere at 100 mpg but my old black sei would pull up to 110 and that had the same mods but a mcrich chip and pannel filter

 

[lucas87]

Just put the standard airbox back on with an old paperfillter and took the induction kit offand it got 105 mph how mad is that gunna get a pannel filter and a ram air feed

 

[Huwbishop]

It sounds like ignition advance as well, I don't think the chip is allowing it to advance enough or too much.

For an example, I have a honda fireblade, in standard ignition spec maximum power is achived above 6k up to 11k redline, I fitted a 5degree advance on it and it moved the band down from 6 to 4k but lost out on top end, after 9k she loses a bit of power.

It works better for me, because the power band is more usable on the road, and she is still good for 180mph.

I suspect you have a similar issue, the chip is advancing to give more mid range, but then you loose top end. Shouldn't be to much of an issue. I am running either a gazzaman chip, or a chips2race one. I don't remember which.

But that will pull clean right up.

 

[Liquid Knight]

Panda Bianca five speed 999cc - 105mph
Panda Fantasia four speed 999cc - 95-100mph (too wobbly to tell)
Cinquecento Sporting standard 1108cc - 110mph indicated 104mph on the Sat Nav
Cinquecento Sporting rally car standard 1108cc but lighter - 112mph indicated 107mph on the Sat Nav
Seicento Sporting standard 1108cc - 105mph indicated 104mph on the Sat Nav
Punto Sporting MkI 16V five speed standard - 108mph on Sat Nav speedo' broken.
Punto Sporting MkII six speed standard - 112mph 114mph on the Sat Nav.
Punto Sporting MkI 1.6 standard five speed - 128-130mph 126mph on the Sat Nav.
Punto GT standard five speed - 123mph 128 on the Sat Nav.
Uno turbo phase 1 unknown modifications - 132mph
Uno turbo phase 2 piper cam, Hf turbo, front mounted intercooler, chipped and filter standard five speed - 134mph

The others are bigger Fiats that won't fit under a Cinquecento/Seicento bonnet.

 

[Huwbishop]

Panda Bianca five speed 999cc - 105mph
Panda Fantasia four speed 999cc - 95-100mph (too wobbly to tell)
Cinquecento Sporting standard 1108cc - 110mph indicated 104mph on the Sat Nav
Cinquecento Sporting rally car standard 1108cc but lighter - 112mph indicated 107mph on the Sat Nav
Seicento Sporting standard 1108cc - 105mph indicated 104mph on the Sat Nav
Punto Sporting MkI 16V five speed standard - 108mph on Sat Nav speedo' broken.
Punto Sporting MkII six speed standard - 112mph 114mph on the Sat Nav.
Punto Sporting MkI 1.6 standard five speed - 128-130mph 126mph on the Sat Nav.
Punto GT standard five speed - 123mph 128 on the Sat Nav.
Uno turbo phase 1 unknown modifications - 132mph
Uno turbo phase 2 piper cam, Hf turbo, front mounted intercooler, chipped and filter standard five speed - 134mph

The others are bigger Fiats that won't fit under a Cinquecento/Seicento bonnet.

Mk1 1.6 punto, wow. Got any rocking horse poo. Only ever drove one once, when they were new. That engine seemed to suit the punto really well. Don't know why they dropped it for the 1.2 16v.

 

[Liquid Knight]

Mk1 1.6 punto, wow. Got any rocking horse poo. Only ever drove one once, when they were new. That engine seemed to suit the punto really well. Don't know why they dropped it for the 1.2 16v.

https://www.fiatforum.com/punto/343298-1-6-sporting.html

Now living in Grantham Lincolnshire with the first refusal clause if the owner decides to sell.

Certainly the best MkI or MkII Punto I have driven as good as the MkII HGT, a little under powered but better handling and proper power steering so feedback from the tyres was monumentally better.

 

[Huwbishop]

Wow, the enigma. Where did the previous owner store it, Atlantis? I've seen less less alge in a stagnant pond.

Looks nice after though. That's one fiat I would like to own, in red. Just the ideal engine for the punt in my opinion. It was a bit like the old nova gte, the 1.6 8v in that was just right.

It must be the combination between the power and torque delivery on a 1.6.

Difficult to find one now, even harder to find a good standard one.