@ about £300 i am sooo tempted to get a 1.2
but 1.3 sounds better [8D]
but 1.3 sounds better [8D]
SEI-POWER
General punto engine into a seicento!?
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General punto engine into a seicento!?
which 1.3? The 1242 is an easy fit, others aren't so easy.
Or did you mean a bored/stroked 1242?
Pete.
Cinq sporting 1242cc
http://mysite.freeserve.com/close_to_cracking_up/
Or did you mean a bored/stroked 1242?
Pete.
Cinq sporting 1242cc
http://mysite.freeserve.com/close_to_cracking_up/
i just talkin in general m8 - i live in a world where numbers are everything and if i can push that extra bit and make it a 1.3 instead of a 1.25 then so be it 
and i don't even know what bored/stroked is - but how much is it and where can i get it
i want more power outta my baby but have no money and have never worked on an engine b4 - what can i do? where can i get it? and how much will it be?
and i don't even know what bored/stroked is - but how much is it and where can i get it
i want more power outta my baby but have no money and have never worked on an engine b4 - what can i do? where can i get it? and how much will it be?
SEI-POWER
Replacement panel filter or induction kit - £30 to £200 gives a bit more. Zorst - back box only is a bit of a boost too, but a full system is even better - £80 to £500. Chip - £250 or so smooths out the power curve and gives a useful boost. Plugs & leads seem to aid smoothness only, no real power gains.
1242 - about 25% extra torque, very flexible engine compared to the 1108. I paid £150 for mine. (23k miler)
Pete.
Cinq sporting 1242cc
http://mysite.freeserve.com/close_to_cracking_up/
1242 - about 25% extra torque, very flexible engine compared to the 1108. I paid £150 for mine. (23k miler)
Pete.
Cinq sporting 1242cc
http://mysite.freeserve.com/close_to_cracking_up/
Whitterz
Member
£150, bargain, i need to get a 1242cc in mine
got induction kit, so stage 2 exhaust, ok £80 for fll system sounds good - where? my engin has only done 13k so seems sillyreplacing it now
SEI-POWER
£80 will get you a back box only.
The thing is, you can spend £750+ getting an 1108 to the same spec as a standard 1242 lump, and you'd end up with something less reliable and quite possibly a bit difficult to get through an emissions test.
p.s. if anyone needs an 1108 engine........
Pete.
Cinq sporting 1242cc
http://mysite.freeserve.com/close_to_cracking_up/
The thing is, you can spend £750+ getting an 1108 to the same spec as a standard 1242 lump, and you'd end up with something less reliable and quite possibly a bit difficult to get through an emissions test.
p.s. if anyone needs an 1108 engine........
Pete.
Cinq sporting 1242cc
http://mysite.freeserve.com/close_to_cracking_up/
Whitterz
Member
how much u selling the 1.1 for laa ?
looks like i really need to get my thinking cap on for this - some of us being a fair bit younger than some other can't really afford to mention to insurance companies that we have replaced our engine, i'll have a look at some back boxes and some full systems thru the week, but currently i have my spoiler on order and a debadge and spray in mind, after that a nice set of wheels is on my list, then we are definatly at the exhaust stage and it will be a must. altho these are quite tempting http://www.needforspeed.co.uk/pages/sbv_pl.asp?Vehicle=FTSEI01&PartType=CSW01
one day we will all decide that we don't need money anymore and all this s**t will be free
in the mean time i better get a job
one day we will all decide that we don't need money anymore and all this s**t will be free
in the mean time i better get a job
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stubbsieyourule
New member
hey pete,
i bin finking of gettin a custom made exhaust for ages but if im goin to get a punto engine put in my car sumtime soon then isnt best if i do that first before gettin a custom made exhaust put in as u were sayin i need to move it 10mm or sumfink!? wot company wud u recommed me to go to get my custom made exhaust done for my car??
thanx
stubbzie
i bin finking of gettin a custom made exhaust for ages but if im goin to get a punto engine put in my car sumtime soon then isnt best if i do that first before gettin a custom made exhaust put in as u were sayin i need to move it 10mm or sumfink!? wot company wud u recommed me to go to get my custom made exhaust done for my car??
thanx
stubbzie
Whitterz
Member
i think im gonna look for a punto 60 engine too now !!! lol !!!
Don't forget you'll need the gearbox and probably driveshafts too. Might even need hubs...... then there's the ecu as well seeing as you're starting from an 899.
Pete.
Cinq sporting 1242cc
http://mysite.freeserve.com/close_to_cracking_up/
Pete.
Cinq sporting 1242cc
http://mysite.freeserve.com/close_to_cracking_up/
CentoEvo
Established member
Exhaust wise try Longlife exhausts
www.exhausts.uk.com
had a custom one made up with 2x3" slash tailpies, excellent workmanship and gave me a courtesy car so i did'nt have to wait around.
Its all made in stainless steel so it will never rust, cost a fair bit tho, £460 for a cat back system [:0]
Normally around £300 for a normal, single backbox system.
NOTE: They use a grade higher stainless steel than Powerflow do, so in a few years the powerflow exhaust will tarnish (which kinds of looks like rust) and the Longlife wont.
"The Not so Fast but Furious"
www.exhausts.uk.com
had a custom one made up with 2x3" slash tailpies, excellent workmanship and gave me a courtesy car so i did'nt have to wait around
.Its all made in stainless steel so it will never rust, cost a fair bit tho, £460 for a cat back system [:0]
Normally around £300 for a normal, single backbox system.
NOTE: They use a grade higher stainless steel than Powerflow do, so in a few years the powerflow exhaust will tarnish (which kinds of looks like rust) and the Longlife wont.
"The Not so Fast but Furious"
Al Matthews
New member
Well I've got a 1.2(8 valve) already and need more power! Like a lot of you guys I'm 18 and paying 700 quid in my dads name for a 2001 so big engine swaps are out of the question. Does anybody know the best way to get a bit more power from this block?
Cheers.
Fiat Punto=Italian Stallion
Cheers.
Fiat Punto=Italian Stallion
as pete said earlier - this pretty much goes for any engine
<blockquote id="quote"> face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fixitagaintomorrow
Replacement panel filter or induction kit - £30 to £200 gives a bit more. Zorst - back box only is a bit of a boost too, but a full system is even better - £80 to £500. Chip - £250 or so smooths out the power curve and gives a useful boost. Plugs & leads seem to aid smoothness only, no real power gains.
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and if fiat punto = italian stallian
does the sei = the italian shetland pony?
and the stilo = the fat assed italian mamma making the pasta?
<blockquote id="quote"> face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fixitagaintomorrow
Replacement panel filter or induction kit - £30 to £200 gives a bit more. Zorst - back box only is a bit of a boost too, but a full system is even better - £80 to £500. Chip - £250 or so smooths out the power curve and gives a useful boost. Plugs & leads seem to aid smoothness only, no real power gains.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
and if fiat punto = italian stallian
does the sei = the italian shetland pony?
and the stilo = the fat assed italian mamma making the pasta?
SEI-POWER
Hi,
what I don't understand with all the engine swap (unfortunately this is impossible here in Germany, stupid rules!!) .... why do you go for a Punto 60 Engine instead for the 75 version (Punto 1 1.25l 8V)?
+15 bhp for the same job
What can you tune on an engine?
- airfilter (so many different types)
- bigger throttle body (up to 38mm)
- inlet manifold
- camshaft (if anyone wants a 280degree one out of an 1.1 sporting mail me/ should fit into the 1.25 Punto Engine too)
- engine itself (better keep this stock/ too expensive)
- complete exhaust system (only backbox/ or 4in1 no cat 2" diameter)
- and then a matching chip
another cheap performance trick is to get a ca. 10% shorter 5th gear (helps alot)
a (relatively cheap) source here in germany would be www.bielstein.com
[email protected]
what I don't understand with all the engine swap (unfortunately this is impossible here in Germany, stupid rules!!) .... why do you go for a Punto 60 Engine instead for the 75 version (Punto 1 1.25l 8V)?
+15 bhp for the same job
What can you tune on an engine?
- airfilter (so many different types)
- bigger throttle body (up to 38mm)
- inlet manifold
- camshaft (if anyone wants a 280degree one out of an 1.1 sporting mail me/ should fit into the 1.25 Punto Engine too)
- engine itself (better keep this stock/ too expensive)
- complete exhaust system (only backbox/ or 4in1 no cat 2" diameter)
- and then a matching chip
another cheap performance trick is to get a ca. 10% shorter 5th gear (helps alot)
a (relatively cheap) source here in germany would be www.bielstein.com
[email protected]
CentoEvo
Established member
I think the punto 75 engine is MPI whereas the seicento/cinquecento are SPI.
Pain in the ass to convert properly as you would need to change the ECU, part of the loom etc.
The punto 60 engine is easy to swap over bar changing a few senders/switches and making up a custom downpipe.
"The Not so Fast but Furious"
Pain in the ass to convert properly as you would need to change the ECU, part of the loom etc.
The punto 60 engine is easy to swap over bar changing a few senders/switches and making up a custom downpipe.
"The Not so Fast but Furious"
Ok I can see your point.
A company in poland offered me to install an punto 75 engine for 1250Euro. Too bad this is not street legal at all over here.
Is the SPI/MPI the only difference? If not (+15bhp would be a lot for this difference) maybe you can change some parts to get some extra power.
This polish company recommended a Punto1 75 camshaft for the cinque 1.1 (I asked them for a more torquefriendly cam than my 280degree, as I'm most of the time stuck in city traffic), maybe this is an easy way to up the power ..... or .....
BTW does anyone knows how hard it is to put the 6speed gearbox in an cinque?
BTW to see what outcome costly tuning might "only" have
Novitec Carbon Airbox
34mm Trottle body
another inlet manifold
280degree camshaft
complete 4-1/ 2" / no middle silencer/ with stock cat system
chip
> 76bhp at 6250U/min
If you can go for the engine swap I would highly recommend it (as my more bhp start at 4000U/min, seldom use this area)
Cheers,
Marc
A company in poland offered me to install an punto 75 engine for 1250Euro. Too bad this is not street legal at all over here.
Is the SPI/MPI the only difference? If not (+15bhp would be a lot for this difference) maybe you can change some parts to get some extra power.
This polish company recommended a Punto1 75 camshaft for the cinque 1.1 (I asked them for a more torquefriendly cam than my 280degree, as I'm most of the time stuck in city traffic), maybe this is an easy way to up the power ..... or .....
BTW does anyone knows how hard it is to put the 6speed gearbox in an cinque?
BTW to see what outcome costly tuning might "only" have
Novitec Carbon Airbox
34mm Trottle body
another inlet manifold
280degree camshaft
complete 4-1/ 2" / no middle silencer/ with stock cat system
chip
> 76bhp at 6250U/min
If you can go for the engine swap I would highly recommend it (as my more bhp start at 4000U/min, seldom use this area)
Cheers,
Marc
