Technical Problem with city brake control and ELD

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Technical Problem with city brake control and ELD

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Hello friends.
After two years of using my Panda Cross 4x4 (2017), this summer I changed the rear brake pads due to the noise that was produced exclusively when reversing. The noise disappeared.
Two weeks ago I changed all four tires and took the opportunity to change the front brake pads.
Since then, a warning appears every day on the central screen (but the corresponding warning light on the left screen did not light up): "City brake control deactivated". I reactivate it through the menu.
On the other hand, several months have passed without needing to activate the 4x4,... until yesterday.
When turning the wheel to position 2, the text message "OFF ROAD MODE ACTIVATED" appeared on the central screen, but the green ELD icon did not light up.
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Instead, the "CITY BRAKE DEACTIVATED" icon lit up (but the corresponding text did not appear on the central screen)

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The Hill Holder system worked perfectly at all times, and the warning light on the dashboard lit up.
I wonder if it is necessary to notify the "brain of the car" of the brake pad change or if a cable in the brake system was not connected correctly.
I appreciate any comments and help. Thanks
"Let's continue enjoying our Pandas in 2025."

(Notice: Translated with google)
 
Model
Panda Cross 4x4
Year
2017
Correct - the ELD light will NOT light up when you select off road mode. That light only flashes (briefly) if/when the ELD actually operates (nearly never!, only when one wheel is spinning free, usually if it's in the air). If 4x4 operates, there is no indication of this on the dash.

Note also that the Off Road mode should NEVER be selected on tarmac or other high-grip surfaces (several recent posts explain why), and that actually, the car will automatically engage 4x4 if it needs to, even with the dial in the 'normal' (or 'auto') setting. Very rarely (if ever) should you need to manually select the Off Road mode (unless you know you are, for example, in the middle of a very muddy field)
 
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It's a relief to read your reply. The possible problem is my memory; I think I remember a very steep climb. It was dry terrain, with many loose stones. It was about 4-5 km in first gear with curves to the right and left until reaching some TV and telephone antennas: was the ELD permanently on? I think so, but I can't be completely sure.

I started the car a few minutes ago to check that the ELD warning light came on.
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I will follow your advice and allow the 4x4 system to activate automatically. Thanks
 
The advantage of the Mark2/Series3(?) 169 mechanical permanent 4x4 was that until c 2011(?) you always knew the 4x4 system was operational because it was purely mechanical - unless you heard a clanking +banging as the rear diff or some other transmission part snapped off and bits+pieces bouncing along the road became visible in the rear view mirror… 😁

But with electronic control of the 4x4 system in subsequent Panda models there is no simple way of telling that the system is actually operational until you suddenly find yourself driving in challenging conditions where you actually need 4x4! This once happened to me in my Octavia 4x4 when caught out in icy+snowy conditions in the Cotswolds only to discover the complex electronically controlled (separate ECU) Haldex 4x4 system had obviously stopped working at some point since the previous winter and no dash warning was displayed. I had to wait for a passing Landrover whose occupants kindly pushed me to get going and it was only thanks to the additional electronic trickery fitted to the Octavia that my now 2WD car was able to get me home.

When I took my car to my local Skoda dealer to fix this they presented me with a bill and said “we’ve tested it +there’s nothing wrong”. I knew they were lying but couldn’t prove it because I had no video evidence (pre smart phone days). Turned out that a cable connector under the car attached to the Haldex ECU had let in water. It was an extremely frustrating experience.
 
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