Technical Problem list!

[NotAgain]

Hi Guys,

After getting 3 of the 4 engine mounts replaced a month or so ago the car was great...I say WAS because now I have the following issues I could do with some help on...

1. Passenger door has stopped locking via the button and fob...the window works via both. To top it off my electric mirror does not move when engaged in reverse...

2. Reverse sensors are not working...probably links the mirror problem.

3. A grinding feeling on quarter lock coming through the steering wheel...both ways.

4. low speed vibrations coming through the pedals...up to 40mph - not sure if this could be CV related but I do not get a clicking noise on full lock. It does make the whole car shake after a while...

I have been twaling the forums and I have not come across much to help me..

Any ideas?

\dicuss

 

[radoslavp]

Which engine mounts did you change ?

 

[Argonought]

I would kinda expect it to be related to changing the engine mounts.

Did any cable runs or plugs/sockets get crushed in the engine bay perhaps :chin:

 

[john55]

1. Check door hinge connector. They are prone to getting water in.

Grinding / vibration, check CV joints and drive shafts.

 

[cris1117]

Hi All
The reverse sensor and mirror problem could be the reversing switch cable has been knocked off during the mounting change, are the reversing lights working?
Is the grinding on the steering on the move or stationary?
The vibration I would guess is almost certainly linked to the engine mountings that were replaced, which one wasn’t replaced?

 

[NotAgain]

Thanks for the replies...

Mounts: The only one i didnt change was the drivers side mount under the car. I thought it would take time to bed in (the other 3) but I have now done 1k+ miles since changing. We were as careful as possible to move the cable etc when fitting the mounts...but there is always a chance.

I will check the doors for the connectors and the reversing lights and let you know. Don't like the sound of them not being waterproof!

The grinding can be felt while stationary and in motion.

Thanks,

 

[john55]

Just seen you have a JTD. It will be the reverse light switch in the gearbox that has failed for the reversing sensors. I bet if you look, the reverse lights themselves will not be coming on.
Just search for reverse light switch. Lots of info on how to change it.

 

[NotAgain]

The reverse lights do not work...

I will comb the forum for this problem 1st, then tackle the rest.

Update to come.

Cheers guys.

 

[cris1117]

Hi
Reversing light switch is an easy job it’s just behind the back of the n/s front wheel on the end of the gearbox you will need a 19mm offset ring spanner if it needs changing, check the wire is on first I think it’s the only wire down there so it should help you find the switch.
Did the steering and vibration problems start immediately after the mounting change or did they come later?

 

[NotAgain]

OK, well thanks for the information guys & decks guide :worship:...I have replaced the reverse light switch tonight an hey presto, lights/sensors/wipers live! so a big thanks for that!!!

Thats one crossed off the list

As for the vibration i think I may have an idea. The inner CV's on both side are shot to bits...loads of play...so this is next. I am told this may cure the vibrations and the clunky steering noise on quarter turn.

Tyres are not wearing unevnly so the tracking seems ok, plus only had it done 3k miles ago.

Anyone know the part numbers for the inner CV's?

Cheers.

 

[radoslavp]

What do you mean by inner CV's ?

EDIT: sorry for the question, I get it now

Here're the numbers for the parts you need: http://62.195.105.49:7080/navi?MOD_...=3&WINDOW_ID=1&SGRP_COD=2&SGS_COD=5&DRW_NUM=2


Glad you have fixed some of your problems, please report after changing ... I have the same problem as you might know.
This week I'm also changing the mounts of the exhaust to see if there's any change in vibrations.

 

[NotAgain]

Thanks Radoslavp. I will keep you updated, it may take a week or so though.

Hope your changes mean less trouble!

 

[NotAgain]

Ok...

Just got off the phone to my fiat dealer for the inner CV joint & boot...

(46307103) CV new = £132.78 + VAT each
(71781901) CV Recon = £56 + VAT + £30 Surcharge each
(46307029) Boot = £36.25 + VAT each

Thats around £380 inc VAT...

My local spares place sells the outer @ £59.02 each but not the inner, says the inner could be dealer only.

:bang:

Why Fiat...WHY!!!

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Try motor factors, or even eBay. Those prices can be beaten

 

[NotAgain]

Try motor factors, or even eBay. Those prices can be beaten

Waiting for a quote back from somewhere else but one place that gave me the cost for the outer ones (£60 each...) said they were dealer only. Ebay is pants as far a Stilo JTD CV's are concerned...searched for ages (someone else don't find any now too quickly :/)

The wait is on...

 

[radoslavp]

Waiting for a quote back from somewhere else but one place that gave me the cost for the outer ones (£60 each...) said they were dealer only. Ebay is pants as far a Stilo JTD CV's are concerned...searched for ages (someone else don't find any now too quickly :/)

The wait is on...

Mate to be quite honest with you I think the inner CV joints does not have anything to do with the vibrations, just my two cents. These vibrations must be caused from something else, mine vibrates even on idle, when not rolling or something.

Btw I bought most of the exhaust mounts, on Saturday I'm going to change them, and will make sure to write here if anything changes.

 

[radoslavp]

NotAgain today I went to change my soft connection pipe (ePER number: 46829422), it was an easy job ... took the repair man around 30 min and cost me 30 Euro all in all. Well I had this feeling ... even before he started, that after the change some of the vibrations will be gone. I was right ... after he changed the pipe, almost all vibrations on the gearstick disappeared (this pipe goes exactly below the dashboard and the gearstick area), the seats too. There're still some vibrations, most notable on the seats and the armrest, but the gearstick vibrations seem to be 99% cured for now.
I don't have even a slight idea how this pipe could of lead to these vibrations, but it's a fact.
I had some metalic rattles coming from the exhaust when idling and in some revs and saw that it was coming from this pipe. It's an easy job to be replaced, and aside from curing some of the vibrations it made my car sound very good. It is now a lot smoother and quieter, works like a dream.

I'll keep you posted on my progress with the vibrations, next week hopefully I'll be changing the fourth engine mount and will see what happens.

Btw all exhaust mounts were in perfect shape, so I changed none, the repair man said it was a waste of money to change them with new.