General Ouch - may be the end of the JTD 130

[DaveFareham]

Bad news before xmas.

Had a loss of power from the dearly beloved JTD and took her to a diesel injection specialist. Says injectors are shagged and 1 is shut down and causing a misfire - £227 per injector to refurb and with 5 to do it is looking like I need to think twice. Have currently asked for only 1 to be replaced.

Being a novice mechanic - does this sound reasonable? can I get some second hand injectors?

Been wanting a coupe for a wee while and it looks like trade in time.

Some good advice would be appreciated

Dave

2.4 JTD Marea Weekend HLX
Mazda 5 2,0TD Sport

 

[arc]

i would look at getting some from a scrap yard - sod paying that much for them mate!

 

[ABZSTILO]

Hmmmmm sounds like pish to me..... far too much to refurb injectors (presumably refit as well?)
Have a squint at http://www.uniteddiesel.co.uk/diesel_injectors/alfa_romeo/
working on the assumption it's the common 5 cylinder JTD lump as the Alfa some quick number crunching suggests that's a saving around a whopping £100+ quid per injector

 

[DaveFareham]

Cheers for the link.

Yes it is basically same lump as the alfa.

Spoke to the guy at united diesel and he gave good advice that it is v unusual for all of the injectors to be a problem but would do for £130 per injector.

Time for a few words with the local guy.

Great thing the internet.

Keep you posted.

Ta

 

[Hellcat]

Always worth getting a 2nd opinion. If they don't match then you know one or both are fibbing.

Have you tried a course of injector cleaner and some italian tuning?

 

[jug]

just replace it yourself. get a set of injectors from a scrap car (£5 each usually). take them all so you have spares. finding a scrap jtd wont be the easiest thing in the world, but it will save you a fortune.

 

[ABZSTILO]

Cheers for the link.

No problem

Yes it is basically same lump as the alfa.

Spoke to the guy at united diesel and he gave good advice that it is v unusual for all of the injectors to be a problem but would do for £130 per injector.

Time for a few words with the local guy.

Great thing the internet.

Keep you posted.

Ta

Aye - I can't believe they've all gone at the same time. Sounds more like an ECU or sensor glitch - maybe even a air flow meter?
Hope all goes well

 

[Carcheck_JTD105]

:idea:

Dont worry, Ive used a very tried and tested Diesel specialist and they are professinonal, cheaper than fiat and have amazing equipment. They will fix your injector and can even test it all four on a controlled enviroment test bench and new injector is about £130.00 incl vat but its highly unlikely it will be all four??!!!

Labour is £60 per hr!


Watson Diesel Ltd
Ronian Works
Elm Grove Ind Est
Wimbledon
SW19 4HE
Est 1949

0208 879 3854/3861

ps they only specialise in bosch, standyne, racor and turbo diesel specilaists even marine engines!!!
they fixed my fuel leak which was pissing out of the high pressure rail!

 

[faster4_tec]

will be all four??!!!

tis a 5pot :yum:

£227 is obscene.

There is an american company I think that refurbs injectors for petrol cars, works out something like £30 each incl postage back.


not sure if the JTD injectors are weird and fangled though, I would assume they would just be big bosch jobs that sit in a few o rings then into the fuel rail?

 

[DaveFareham]

After tackling him - nearly by the throat - paid £120 for one injector to be refurbed ( including the nozzele?!? ). They are expensive Bosch ones that I did verify with Uniteddiesel.

Got apology and waiver on labour charges after threatening trading standards.

Now on the hunt for a 2.4 Jtd thats been scrapped ( wonder if the alfa uses the same part - anybody in the know?)

Will bear in mind the wimbeldon garage - cheers.

Pulling much better though - great car lives on Hurray!

 

[jug]

if its £120 to recon, how much was a new one? surely it would be cheaper, bosch injectors for my car cost less than that new, and on ebay they're only £50 new. i know diesel ones are less common but its still just an electronically controlled valve.

 

[ABZSTILO]

After tackling him - nearly by the throat - paid £120 for one injector to be refurbed ( including the nozzele?!? ). They are expensive Bosch ones that I did verify with Uniteddiesel.

Coooooooooool

Got apology and waiver on labour charges after threatening trading standards.

Even cooooler

Now on the hunt for a 2.4 Jtd thats been scrapped ( wonder if the alfa uses the same part - anybody in the know?)

Will bear in mind the wimbeldon garage - cheers.

Pulling much better though - great car lives on Hurray!

OK - so exactly which bits you know/reckon you need now to get the beast running 100%