Technical Oil cap

[306maxi]

True.
Princess hasn't commented and is nodoubt not particularly bothered.

Maybe I misread your post.

My reply would have been "Read the bloody manual! There's loads of interesting and useful information in there" or "Have you tried turning the oil cap anti-clockwise?"

and the replies would have been along the lines of

"You HORRIBLE HORRIBLE MAN!!!!"

etc etc etc

There seems to be a pattern with 500 owners of being rather unwilling to help themselves and rear the manual or use the search function and they just want to come here and be fed information. Telling someone to read the manual always invites hostility because very few people on here actually want to learn things on their own, so when someone else is told to do it they're a "horrible horrible man"

 

[Venters]

so when someone else is told to do it they're a "horrible horrible man"

But who says your a man? :devil:

 

[306maxi]

But who says your a man? :devil:

True. Very true. I shall give myself 25 lashes as punishment.

 

[RobW]

I thought it was gonna be a question about a 710 cap

 

[306maxi]

You sexist pig Rob!!!!!!

 

[dave]

What a sexist comment!

its sexist to assume that the people working at a petrol station or a service shop with muscles are men

 

[ahmett]

Hello guys, I felt my comments were right on the mark. It can be hard to open the oil cap sometimes, especially if slippery which may need a towel. If the woman cannot open it, all she has to do is ask a petrol station or a service shop. Given that men are naturally stronger than woman (if thats a sexist comment then the world has gone mad) I would recommend some muscle to help open it. It is also dirty over there in the engine bay, so why not a mechanic who is already probably dirty from working on other cars during the day to do the dirty work for you?


Call me crazy, but I just get the feeling that maintaining a car is more of a mans job than a woman's one. If you guys dont agree then we might as well have no genders at all.

 

[bgunn]

Call me crazy, but I just get the feeling that maintaining a car is more of a mans job than a woman's one. If you guys dont agree then we might as well have no genders at all.

If that's not a sexist comment, I really don't know what is!

 

[RobW]

There are jobs for a man and jobs for a woman, each can interchange and do roles that naturally would be not considered suitable

For example a male nurse, a female soldier

This thread was because the OP found it difficult to doa simple maintenance activity, given training she would have easily been able to do it

 

[Andy Monty]

Call me crazy, but I just get the feeling that maintaining a car is more of a mans job than a woman's one. If you guys dont agree then we might as well have no genders at all.

Just wait till you drop a nut or bolt in a tight corner of the engine bay and you need those little fairly liquid smooth hands that can get down into the gap......

 

[grimwau]

Just wait till you drop a nut or bolt in a tight corner of the engine bay and you need those little fairly liquid smooth hands that can get down into the gap......

Or Lloyd.

 

[306maxi]

Or Lloyd.

I made a Lloyd joke a few weeks ago and no one saw it. I was most annoyed

 

[nemchenk]

There seems to be a pattern with 500 owners of being rather unwilling to help themselves and rear the manual or use the search function and they just want to come here and be fed information.

I think you'll agree that is a pattern everywhere on the 'net. While it can get annoying for the old-timers of a forum, all you have to do is keep away from the "help me" questions / section of the the forum.

Telling newbiew to "RTFM or GTFO" is not particularly helpful. If one can't say something helpful, one should perhaps say nothing at all.

PS. "help themselves and rear the manual"?
...

As to whether ahmett's comments are sexist... well yes and no. I don't believe any malice was intended, and the real test would be whether he would object to a woman doing such a "man's job" as maintaining her own car. You have to agree that what he is saying is rather a truism:

"in general, men are stronger than women, and being a mechanic requires some strength. Thus: *in general* being a mechanic is more suited to men" (or words to that effect.)

Nowhere there does he say "women must not be mechanics", does he?

 

[frupi]

Perhaps ahmett simply suggested a workshop because they'll have a good range of tools.

My wife calls me a tool all the time - ahhh, I don't geddit, have I missed summat?....:shrug:

 

[Andy Monty]

I think you'll agree that is a pattern everywhere on the 'net. While it can get annoying for the old-timers of a forum, all you have to do is keep away from the "help me" questions / section of the the forum.

Or point them in the right direction a quick search on their behalf and posting a couple of links for them to have a read is almost just as quick as telling them to read the handbook..

If it wasn't for the constant stream of new members asking questions the forum would be dead.......... What is easy for someone can be difficult for someone else


Take the OP's question just sorted a weekly check guide out as how many people ever open the car bonnet in between the garage doing it at service time?




I work as a fitter so mechanical tasks i can do fairly easily

I re built a big industrial diesel engine last month (new linings, pistons, rings, injectors, Fuel pump, Oil pressure switch, new thermostat, head gasket you get the picture) im fairly handy with a welder and electrics But there comes a time i get my self cornered and its nice to ask somewhere or someone whats best even if you think you know the answer its reassuring to get confirmation from someone before you do some damage to your car

 

[loveshandbags]

I think you'll agree that is a pattern everywhere on the 'net. While it can get annoying for the old-timers of a forum, all you have to do is keep away from the "help me" questions / section of the the forum.

Telling newbiew to "RTFM or GTFO" is not particularly helpful. If one can't say something helpful, one should perhaps say nothing at all.

PS. "help themselves and rear the manual"?
...

As to whether ahmett's comments are sexist... well yes and no. I don't believe any malice was intended, and the real test would be whether he would object to a woman doing such a "man's job" as maintaining her own car. You have to agree that what he is saying is rather a truism:

"in general, men are stronger than women, and being a mechanic requires some strength. Thus: *in general* being a mechanic is more suited to men" (or words to that effect.)

Nowhere there does he say "women must not be mechanics", does he?

Welcome to the forum nemcheck - it's good to see a 'waver'.

I for one didn't take ahmett's comments as sexist. Given that his mother tongue isn't English it is easy to 'get lost in translation'. I can identify to where he's coming from. My OH has no interest in lifting the bonnet of her car, putting air in her tyres, etc. but has become more conscious of looking after her car particularly after the 147 snapped a cam belt. Thankfully she has never complained about putting diesel in her car.

In defence of Maxi and despite some of the battles that I've had with him he brings balance to the FF. I've come to have a quiet respect for him. Some of his postings have been most valuable in getting to the bottom of a 'problem'. I'm sure he accepts that he may not be the best man to put out in front for newbies.

 

[306maxi]

I think you'll agree that is a pattern everywhere on the 'net. While it can get annoying for the old-timers of a forum, all you have to do is keep away from the "help me" questions / section of the the forum.

Telling newbiew to "RTFM or GTFO" is not particularly helpful. If one can't say something helpful, one should perhaps say nothing at all.

It's my opinion, if you don't like it....

 

[ahmett]

Welcome to the forum nemcheck - it's good to see a 'waver'.

I for one didn't take ahmett's comments as sexist. Given that his mother tongue isn't English it is easy to 'get lost in translation'. I can identify to where he's coming from. My OH has no interest in lifting the bonnet of her car, putting air in her tyres, etc. but has become more conscious of looking after her car particularly after the 147 snapped a cam belt. Thankfully she has never complained about putting diesel in her car.

In defence of Maxi and despite some of the battles that I've had with him he brings balance to the FF. I've come to have a quiet respect for him. Some of his postings have been most valuable in getting to the bottom of a 'problem'. I'm sure he accepts that he may not be the best man to put out in front for newbies.

Actually English is my first language, I was born and raised in London.

 

[loveshandbags]

Actually English is my first language, I was born and raised in London.

Sorry about that ahmett. I hope you took no offence by what I said.

 

[ahmett]

Sorry about that ahmett. I hope you took no offence by what I said.

Don't be silly, none taken! To be honest i have enjoyed reading this thread, especially when some men on the forum started calling me sexist, but then a woman on this forum said i wasnt.