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Babar Malik
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As the title suggest i'm thinking of changing my trusty 1.4 12v s for a diesel soon, whats the main differences between the TD and JTD models? Enough to justify going for a newer JTD over an older TD model??
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JTD Vs TD Main Differences ??????
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steve powell
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The TD100 is just a regular rotary pump diesel whereas the JTD is a common rail and is electroniaclly controlled so it has some tuning potential. I think someone on here had theres re-mapped up to 150 bhp and massive torque. JTD will surely be the better car although I have a TD 100 and have to say it`s a pretty good car.
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Greg
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same block, just strapped some gubbins on it e.g. direct injection to make it more efficient and kinder to the environment, it all depends on how much you want to spend, JTD is the better engine more mpg etc but has more electronics to go wrong on it, were as the TD lump is at the peak of older rotary pump diesel engines and is very robust and reliable!
upto you, i would suggest if your on a budget go for the TD100 (not TD75) lump, if you have the cash get the JTD as it does more mpg and has tuning potential!
upto you, i would suggest if your on a budget go for the TD100 (not TD75) lump, if you have the cash get the JTD as it does more mpg and has tuning potential!
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Babar Malik
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Cheers for that advice all!
After owning a 1.4s 12v for five years that you can do anything to i'm a bit fed up and want something that can be tuned as well so the JTD it will be when funds allow!
After owning a 1.4s 12v for five years that you can do anything to i'm a bit fed up and want something that can be tuned as well so the JTD it will be when funds allow!
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Anonymous
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deasel
Cannot agree with the first post more.
However you don't say what your budget is????
Obviously a good JTD will command alot more £££££.
A nice TD100 could be had for pretty low ££££.
Contrary to popular belief these can be tuned to about 125bhp by addition of a tuning module. As it's a big turbo the results will be pretty impressive. Even in std tune it's a pretty fun drive, if running properly, the turbo comes in giving quite a booost. The TD also has a more compliant and I think better ride than the JTD which is more sporty in it's set up.
The JTD is, as already stated, a common rail injection unit and management is electronic as opposed to mechanical.
If you're not going to have a JTD remapped go for a TD100 no question as in std tune it's a much better proposition, just as economical and in my mind quicker than a JTD in std tune. I had both at the same time!
However if you are willing to spend a few £££ on a remap then go for the JTD. However you may need to fit a stronger clutch as the std may struggle with the extra torque as did mine.
Also with a JTD you will be reliant on garages to solve problems when it goes wrong. Having diagnostics, etc. ££££££££££. With the TD you could if you are a reasonable home mechanic fix it yourself or use a trusted local independent garage, as it's a good old mechanical diesel unit. Having said this my TD100 never missed a beat and I sold it.......A week after I had the JTD the air flow meter failed which cost £265 for Fiat to replace.
If you're on a tight budget go for a TD100. Alot of car for not much money. If you've a bit more ££££ go for a JTD and have it remapped immediately as you will be overtaken by clapped out Astras, Post Office vans and tractors.
If you go for a JTD try and get an HLX as the spec is worth having electric and heated mirrors,
heated seats, climate, temp sensor, fog lights, alloys, alarm, immobiliser.
Remapped it's quicker than an HGT and alot cheaper to run.
Use some diesel additive as well. It helps.
Good luck,
Andy
Cannot agree with the first post more.
However you don't say what your budget is????
Obviously a good JTD will command alot more £££££.
A nice TD100 could be had for pretty low ££££.
Contrary to popular belief these can be tuned to about 125bhp by addition of a tuning module. As it's a big turbo the results will be pretty impressive. Even in std tune it's a pretty fun drive, if running properly, the turbo comes in giving quite a booost. The TD also has a more compliant and I think better ride than the JTD which is more sporty in it's set up.
The JTD is, as already stated, a common rail injection unit and management is electronic as opposed to mechanical.
If you're not going to have a JTD remapped go for a TD100 no question as in std tune it's a much better proposition, just as economical and in my mind quicker than a JTD in std tune. I had both at the same time!
However if you are willing to spend a few £££ on a remap then go for the JTD. However you may need to fit a stronger clutch as the std may struggle with the extra torque as did mine.
Also with a JTD you will be reliant on garages to solve problems when it goes wrong. Having diagnostics, etc. ££££££££££. With the TD you could if you are a reasonable home mechanic fix it yourself or use a trusted local independent garage, as it's a good old mechanical diesel unit. Having said this my TD100 never missed a beat and I sold it.......A week after I had the JTD the air flow meter failed which cost £265 for Fiat to replace.
If you're on a tight budget go for a TD100. Alot of car for not much money. If you've a bit more ££££ go for a JTD and have it remapped immediately as you will be overtaken by clapped out Astras, Post Office vans and tractors.
If you go for a JTD try and get an HLX as the spec is worth having electric and heated mirrors,
heated seats, climate, temp sensor, fog lights, alloys, alarm, immobiliser.
Remapped it's quicker than an HGT and alot cheaper to run.
Use some diesel additive as well. It helps.
Good luck,
Andy
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Anonymous
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Re: deasel
where can i get a tuning module for a marea weekend 125td hlx i have seen the post above and like the sound of it.
where can i get a tuning module for a marea weekend 125td hlx i have seen the post above and like the sound of it.
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steve powell
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Re: deasel
I didn`t realise there was a tuning module available for the TD, sound s interesting. I could if I really had the inclination to do it that the Diesel pump on the TD can be adjusted to give a higher max fuel and also be advanced to give more power but at the expense of more smoke and higher fuel consumption, but it`s a lot of agro for not much a 25 bhp boost sounds great for a bolt on, tell me more.
I didn`t realise there was a tuning module available for the TD, sound s interesting. I could if I really had the inclination to do it that the Diesel pump on the TD can be adjusted to give a higher max fuel and also be advanced to give more power but at the expense of more smoke and higher fuel consumption, but it`s a lot of agro for not much a 25 bhp boost sounds great for a bolt on, tell me more.
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AlfaNige
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Re: deasel
We do the Tunit tuning boxes for.. £470
Dont be put off by the MAF price, we fit new OE for £160 all inc.
Nige
We do the Tunit tuning boxes for.. £470
Dont be put off by the MAF price, we fit new OE for £160 all inc.
Nige
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AlfaNige
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Re: deasel
oooo Bobbox bore wash
If you are going to use a tuning box make sure its Van Arken or Tunit, not a cheap one.
oooo Bobbox bore wash
If you are going to use a tuning box make sure its Van Arken or Tunit, not a cheap one.
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Anonymous
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Re: deasel
Nige i was wondering, the beginning of this summer i'd like to get a remap done for my JTD, however you seem to be based half way down the country do you travel round at all or have any other garages up North near Manchester?
Joske
Nige i was wondering, the beginning of this summer i'd like to get a remap done for my JTD, however you seem to be based half way down the country do you travel round at all or have any other garages up North near Manchester?
Joske
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AlfaNige
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Re: deasel
We are up in the Manchester region regularily, just let us know when you want it done!
To give you an example..
Today: Off to Cambridge in a minute
Tomorrow: Welshpool
Sunday: North Cheam
Monday: Exeter
Tuesday: Jersey
Wednesday: Jersey
Thursday: Newport, South Wales
Friday: Middlesbro
We are up in the Manchester region regularily, just let us know when you want it done!
To give you an example..
Today: Off to Cambridge in a minute
Tomorrow: Welshpool
Sunday: North Cheam
Monday: Exeter
Tuesday: Jersey
Wednesday: Jersey
Thursday: Newport, South Wales
Friday: Middlesbro