Technical induction kit

[cm246]

hello there
i just bought an induction air filter from e bay for 12 pounds is the max power one i am thinking to put it on the round inlet of the plastic that covrs the throttle body (where the tube goes out and connects with the grill. the problem is that the space is a bit limmited so i will need a rubber tube extension otherwise is gonna touch the rocker cover of the angine.
any ideas where ia can get a flexible rubber tube?

 

[Bushboy]

there are people on ebay that sell those kind of things.

samco hoses or sfs hoses. might be a little hard to find exactly what you need on ebay though.

one thing you could do is to get a "bob" (as us cinq owners call them) for a 899cc cinq. its the part that sits ontop of the 899cc throttle body. this is basicly a 90degree angle that you could attatch the max power thingytoo... or maybe extend it with some samco hosing.

The "bob" is the part that the red tubing is connected to. its not an exact fir for the uno 999cc throttle body BUT it will go on... its just a few mm too big but im sure you will be able to use a jubilee clip to tighten it up like i did with my cinq K&N on the uno.

get a "bob" from a scrappie or fiat but they will be more expencive from fiat and youll look daft going in and asking for a "bob" lol.

 

[Louie Bee]

Ah Bushboy just posted :yeahthat: looks better

Hi cm246,

You drive the 999CC IE FIRE I recall.

I have the Max Power Inductor off Spam0r’s old Uno – the one that features in this thread https://www.fiatforum.com/showthread.php?t=12234

After a lot of cutting he’d mounted it straight on top of the Throttle Body. He didn’t get round to adding the cam breather filter. He also told me to keep an eye on it (may fall off).

I haven’t fitted it yet, so I will take some pictures tomorrow.

BTW, I found a defective vacuum advance (on his distributor), which explains his uneven idling he had associated with the inductor.

I’m not sure if I need to inform my insurance Co as this mod increases engine torque, so may void my insurance .

 

[Louie Bee]

...I haven’t fitted it yet, so I will take some pictures tomorrow...

Photo uploaded - See https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3711&size=big&sort=1&cat=602&page=1

 

[phil_harry]

Hmmm....my friend bought one of those max power induction kits and he just fixed it on to the outlet of the air box, then removed the original filter from the air box. There was enough room for it. It worked and now sounds awsome!

 

[whatoncewas]

I worry about these cheap cone filters. Great noise I'm sure, but is the filtration really any good?

I know of friends' in modern cars where they've messed up their air flow sensors etc. 'cos of all the crap/dirt that didn't get filtered for. I know my Uno doesn't have any sensors, but I wouldn't want dirt going inside either.

Good ones are the cotten based filters? Which of the makes (K&N, Green, Pipercross, Jetex...) is the cheapest and from where?

 

[Jai]

i picked up my piper x foam filter for £15 from a max power weekend at the nec

 

[whatoncewas]

And it does it sound so much better than the standard airbox?

 

[alexGS]

ts86, I think you're right to be worried!
I have a friend at an engine shop, and he once told me about "shocking" ring/bore wear caused in engines that ingest fine, abrasive dirt after being fitted with a 'performance' foam filter.

Even the K&N filters are a bit of a risk, but I have one in my Alfa. I'm careful to keep it well-oiled with the red K&N oil.

I think the key point here is to always use some sort of approved oil in a non-paper air filter. And also, it depends a bit on your driving conditions. In England (where it seems to be cold and damp, and all your roads are sealed!) it is probably not as much of a risk as it is if you live on gravel roads in our sunny countryside.

Car Mechanics (a magazine to which I subscribe) had a Project Nova a while back (the base 1.2 model). They tested the engine on a dyno. Then they fitted a cone air filter and a big exhaust. The dyno re-test showed a negligible power increase: even a slight drop in power! So, if you have a standard 'economy' engine: ask yourself, is it worth it?

Of course, my Uno Turbo has a 3" exhaust, and a Kingdragon air filter - still the paper type, though!

Thanks,
-Alex

 

[whatoncewas]

So, if you have a standard 'economy' engine: ask yourself, is it worth it?

If it's cheap AND makes a really nice sound on high revs/throttle, then yes, definately

Although, having to use good/proper oil could bump the cost up a but too much for my liking.

 

[cm246]

Hello Again
I Managed To Fit The Filter I Removed The Old One As Well And I Seald All The Pipework Connections With High Temperature Silicone. It Looks Fantastic And You Can Even See It Through The Grill.to Be Honest With You I Havent Noticed Any Real Change In The Sound Of The Engine But I Can Feel A Slight Improvement In Performance ( Dont Expect Any Ferrary Results :d But For My 1 Litre Engine Makes A Difference

I Will Try To Post Some Pic Later This Weekend

 

[cm246]

I forgot to ask

my filter is almost tha same material as the standard. Do I have to clean it every now and then? if yes how? will it be damaged if it gets wet?

 

[cm246]

Re: induction kit!!!!

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[cm246]

this are the pictures of my indiction kit i will post some more from inside th bonnet

 

[cm246]

more pictures of my uno and the induction kit any comments welcomed

 

[Chas Uno]

Interesting way of fitting an after market airfilter cm246.

A couple of things no-one has mentioned/ seen yet.

Firstly, I assume that you are now running without the original airbox filter? Wouldn't be much point in fitting an aftermarket jobbie if you were!

Thing is, the hot-air intake hole in the front part of the airbox, unless it has been properly sealed shut, will be drawing in air from the engine bay/ exhaust manifold. As you've now removed the original filter from the airbox (I presume), then that means you will have some UNFILTERED air entering into the carb/ throttle body. This can lead to blockages in the fuel system and also premature wear in the engine if too much dirt/ dust/ grit can get in. And you'd be very surprised at just how much air an airbox can draw in even from a tiny hole.

Secondly, the location of the airfilter is great for allowing maximum air intake. However, as it can be seen from the front of the car, that also means it will get wet when driving in rain. The last thing you want to do is get an airfilter wet, as when waterlogged it will struggle to pull in air. Plus a paper element will be ruined if allowed to get damp, whereas a foam airfilter will need to be dried out and cleaned before it will work properly again.

Sorry to be such a downer on your installation, but really unless you seal the airbox hot air intake and only drive in dry weather you'll be heading for problems.

Ideally you should really go for an installation like Bushboy has done with his Cinquecento. The path from the filter to throttle body is sealed, and the location of the filter is such that it won't be in direct line of water spray at the front of the car.

Or alternatively find one of those flatter but wider air filters and bolt it straight on top of the throttle body. You may still need to route a cold air intake pipe from the front of the car to the filter though to get maximum benefit.

Chas

 

[whatoncewas]

Also, the size of the intake is the same, so no real performance benefit?

 

[Morty Mort]

Or do like I did...

https://www.fiatforum.com/showthread.php?t=28070&page=1

Works well.

Morten.