Technical HGT Lambda sensor help needed please!

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Technical HGT Lambda sensor help needed please!

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Car has a bit of a problem, nothing massive, but since has got no service history at all figgured id better try to get all the little problems and bits done properly as doesnt appear to have been looked after very well.

Car can be a little jerky when i let off the gas at low revs, same when im gently an dtrying to holld steady using the throttle in trafic at low revs, also pause a little under sudden acceleration. All the symptoms are fairly minor so is more of an annoyance than a serious issue at the moment, but want to get everything on the car just right.

Having read nwmlarge's guide about lambda sensors i thought it would be an idea to investigate mine since the car has done just over 50k and going on the lack of service history i doubt they have changed and my problems fit some of the symptons of a bad lambda sensor.

So ive invested in a EOBD reader to get some data and information out of the car, but dont know enough to interpret what ive got!!

According to the software it is detecting three lambda sensors. Two in bank 1 (front i assume) and one in bank 2(rear), the car is a 2001 HGT Euro 3, is this correct are there three lamda sensors(from what ive googled there is a left, right front sensor and a rear?)?

Ive attached a screen shot of the Lambda voltage graph for one front sensor and the rear one(lambda.jpg) from everything ive managed to find on google i would have expected a more uniform pattern to the voltage curve, can anyone coment on the graph and if this is about right or not?

Thebottom graph on the second attachment(lambda2.jpg) is the data im getting from the second front lambda sensor, the voltage is hardly changing and just sitting arounf .35 V! There is also a test option on the software I have that gives all sorts of data and readings from the sensor, works fine for the other two sensors but just gives an error when i try to test this sensor. Assuming my car has three lambda sensors does this mean this one is broken? And should i be looking to replace the other two sensors? (based on the data from the graph and my guess that they are 50k old)

And last question can anyone recomend a good universal brand of sensor or am i better buying NKG or Fiat OE ones?

Ignore the top right graph.

Thanks :)
 

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Well narrowed the problem down to the right hand front sensor on the manifold!

Bought a new sensor, fitted it and still the same!! According to the diagnostics cable/laptop the ECU is just reading default voltage permanantly from it. Teach me to test things properly before i spend money! :bang: Couldnt swap them over as the lead on one sensor is nearly 100 cm long, 25 cm on the other so wouldnt reach to test!:cry:

Managed to find a lambda sensor tester in the garage, am definatly getting voltage reading from the new sensor after the connector so i know the problem doesnt lie there!

Any ideas how i can test if the wire up to the ecu is good? Bear in mind i have no idea where the wire runs or comes out from the loom!! Or is it time i took the car to someone who acctually knows what they are doing?

Also ive noticed from other posts that i should get an error code/engine light come on if i disconnect the lambda sensors without disconnecting the battery first. Ive had both the front sensors disconnected, and swapped the right one with the battery connected and no errors!!! Should the fact that the ECU is only showing default voltage for the right sensor mean i should get an error??

Thanks
 
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