Tuning handling
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Tuning handling
just get the top one
Yeah. On -60mm you do not want a lower brace, you want a sump guard.
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As above, you will damage the brace on every bump/speedhump known to man at that drop
jimbro1000
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If you weren't lowering it I would say forget the top one and just get the lower one but with a 60mm drop you just won't get away with the lower brace unless you are never going to see a speed bump.
The upper brace isn't as effective as the lower brace but it will help.
Keep in mind that with the 60mm drop your handling is going to be degraded anyway and you'll need all the help you can get.
The upper brace isn't as effective as the lower brace but it will help.
Keep in mind that with the 60mm drop your handling is going to be degraded anyway and you'll need all the help you can get.
could always design your own lower brace. but yeh with that kind of drop it will never handle
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why wont it handle? due to body roll not absorbing corners???
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yeh, i have less understeer and a tad oversteer on the susp i got, but its DEFO better than standard haha
Mines going to be lowered alot more than 60-70mm, with full polybush and upper and lower bracing I don't see how the handling will end up worse off.
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The problem is that the wishbones are past horizontal relative to the ground/chassis when on the flat and that means your geometry moves in the wrong way over every bump. You also lose 70% of your suspension movement in compression so your ability to ride the bumps is down to the spring rate catching the movement and on a small light car the energy is transferred to the chassis even assuming you have the right damping rate for the stiffer springs.
You would get better handling by just fitting stiffer springs and stronger dampers and keeping the original ride height - a drop of upto about 25mm will allow you to keep some semblence of sensible suspension geometry under compression without going for suspension that is too stiff.
Realistically if you want a drop of more than 40mm your best option (handling wise) is to have the lower mounts relocated - and I don't for one moment recommend anyone tries this as it is a precision job that requires more than a little engineering know-how to keep it safe and I don't think you could get enough clearance to the driveshaft even if you did try.
You would get better handling by just fitting stiffer springs and stronger dampers and keeping the original ride height - a drop of upto about 25mm will allow you to keep some semblence of sensible suspension geometry under compression without going for suspension that is too stiff.
Realistically if you want a drop of more than 40mm your best option (handling wise) is to have the lower mounts relocated - and I don't for one moment recommend anyone tries this as it is a precision job that requires more than a little engineering know-how to keep it safe and I don't think you could get enough clearance to the driveshaft even if you did try.
i know what your saying but -60 is a hell of alot better than standard
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Only in looks
some how a dont think so, it handled far better with the kw kit, standard it just rolled around everywhere
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That's just the higher spring rate - not the ride height
Basically in short if you have money for AVO coilovers or something similar at a high price, then happy days.
Better qaulity suspension you buy the better the ride and stability will be.
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Better qaulity suspension you buy the better the ride and stability will be.
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But apparently mine didnt handle well because it was -60mm even tho it had the expensive KW kit on
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What I said was dropping the suspension by 60mm doesn't, by itself, make the car handle, infact it is the complete opposite. The improvement in handling comes from the uprated springs and dampers but it would handle better with similarly uprated springs and dampers if it wasn't dropped by 60mm...
maybe, but you will have to keep on top of the maintenence of the whole suspension, as it will wear out a hell of a lot quicker
And you will still have a big gap (maybe not looking at it directly but if you look at the vehicle looking down it) because you have got skinny tyred 13'' wheels on that havent filled the arches
And you will still have a big gap (maybe not looking at it directly but if you look at the vehicle looking down it) because you have got skinny tyred 13'' wheels on that havent filled the arches
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