Styling Guide: How to make custom rear speaker panels...

[ronnieronson]

O ok then, looks like fiberglassing it is then.

I woulda bought your old Cinq panels if they took bigger speakers, as if you remember I pm'd you about buying them but they were too small

How right you are - sorry, memory like a sieve.

I still personally think big speakers in a small car is asking for trouble, but at least you don't wanna put 6x9's in.... that would just be wrong and you would need to be slapped by law!

 

[MiG]

How right you are - sorry, memory like a sieve.

I still personally think big speakers in a small car is asking for trouble, but at least you don't wanna put 6x9's in.... that would just be wrong and you would need to be slapped by law!

I have 6x9's in my Cinq... (They came with the car don't shoot me!), But they're half decent pioneers and powered by a pretty decent AMP as well, so life aint so bad

They have a Lot of BASS as is, I think a Sub in a Cinq would be rather interesting to hear... :chin:

 

[ronnieronson]

I have 6x9's in my Cinq... (They came with the car don't shoot me!), But they're half decent pioneers and powered by a pretty decent AMP as well, so life aint so bad

They have a Lot of BASS as is, I think a Sub in a Cinq would be rather interesting to hear... :chin:

A sub when used with 10cm speakers like mine, sounds spot on... its all about balance.
My front and rear speakers will be exclusively trebble, with only the sub producing bass.... exact same set up as in the cinq I had... will sound great

 

[MiG]

A sub when used with 10cm speakers like mine, sounds spot on... its all about balance.
My front and rear speakers will be exclusively trebble, with only the sub producing bass.... exact same set up as in the cinq I had... will sound great

Need slightly bigger speakers for a bit of mid range kick if you ask me, but its all down to personal preference all this audio cobblers.

I'm going to go for 10cm fronts, 6.5" Speakers in door panels, and then sub in the back... Running 4 channel amp for the speakers and 2 channel amp for the sub..

Should be pretty damn good.

 

[dpallot]

Guides really good so far! Looks like a good idea to do in mine. Do you reckon adding tweeters to the panels would be too difficult? I assume i would just have to cut out another circle and the reapolistering would just be a bit more tricky

 

[ronnieronson]

Guides really good so far! Looks like a good idea to do in mine. Do you reckon adding tweeters to the panels would be too difficult? I assume i would just have to cut out another circle and the reapolistering would just be a bit more tricky

You are correct - infact I did this for a friend not so long ago in his front door cards (which are soooooooo much easier as they are made outta hardboard in a cinq!).
If you wanted them in the same panel as the rear speakers though I would imagine you could run into problems come the stretching part - and you will see why in the last installment of my guide - this is specifically why I always chose to remove ashtrays on rear panels...

 

[ronnieronson]

Well here it is folks - the stretching part....

I'm not gonna say much on this part - the pictures speak for themselves.
When stretching the material over it is important to keep checking on the face side - so that you can see any wrinkles developing, and then you can work them out of the fabric as you glue it down.

I would also suggest having a few spare glue sticks handy - I used 9 in total.

It is easier to start at the top of the panel and work the top flat edge, and then begin to work your way round the corners...

Hopefully you can see in the next two pics, that the material is wrinkle-less due to the stretching process...

I operate a "trim as you go" sort of situation - that way I'm getting rid of loose and needless material without it getting in my way:

And hopefully when you are finished they should look like this:

(sorry about the poor lighting on this one!)


Ok - so you've made them, next task is to re-insert those red securing pins - I popped down to my local scrap yard(s) and raped every sei in the yard for as many pins as I could remove intact (you need a total of 12 good ones).
All told cost me £4 for them - though they are probably small enough to just pocket, and leave without paying for them... But I have morals

Once the securing pins are back on the panels, then "refitting is reversal of removal" - just don't forget to hook up your speaker wires first, 'cos these babys probably arn't gonna come back out easily!

Will take a pic once mine are back in the car

 

[st-hamuel]

really impressed with how its turned out although personally I'd go for bigger speakers :slayer: lol..seems so simple when its all broken down like that though, great guide

 

[Italian Coke Can]

Not high jacking, just some food for thought with the questions about bigger speakers.

They sound better than when they were in the stealth shelf.

 

[st-hamuel]

Not high jacking, just some food for thought with the questions about bigger speakers.


They sound better than when they were in the stealth shelf.

really...whys that do ya no is there 2 much reverb when in the door cards?? have you tried smaller ones there 2 compare or which would you go with in the future given the option?!

sorry for the questions just tryna work out what 2 go 4 with mine!

 

[Brooky]

pffft who needs ponsey speakers in the rear


i did have ally cards in you can just see them in this pic,but had to remove due to roll cage installage


Well easy to make,remove old card,draw round on sheet of ally cut out with anything (i used a jigsaw with a wood blade ) drill and rivit on.jobs a good'n and if you feel the neccecity to install speakers (just think of that extra weight ) then cut hole out and whack your silly speakers in

 

[Sei_rory]

mate u didnt need to use all of that wood like that and also the fibreglass doesnt stick to plastic so will start to move. i will upload some pics on how to make them a lot easier and also quicker. fiar play to ya mate tho for giving it a go.

 

[ronnieronson]

mate u didnt need to use all of that wood like that and also the fibreglass doesnt stick to plastic so will start to move. i will upload some pics on how to make them a lot easier and also quicker. fiar play to ya mate tho for giving it a go.

Stuck to my plastic pretty damn welll... just as it has on the others ive made in the past...

 

[Italian Coke Can]

really...whys that do ya no is there 2 much reverb when in the door cards?? have you tried smaller ones there 2 compare or which would you go with in the future given the option?!

sorry for the questions just tryna work out what 2 go 4 with mine!

I mean that the door cards sound better. Much firmer mounting and the sound is split up. Like having four seperate speakers, instead of the two at the back merging into one.

 

[K4RL]

i think what i'm going o do, is just get some 6mm ply, cut it the same as the old panel, put the old pannels in the shed for safe keeping then put the speaker on the ply wood, cover it in cloth of some sort, then screw it straight to the car, no fiberglassing, no messing modding, lol

 

[ronnieronson]

i think what i'm going o do, is just get some 6mm ply, cut it the same as the old panel, put the old pannels in the shed for safe keeping then put the speaker on the ply wood, cover it in cloth of some sort, then screw it straight to the car, no fiberglassing, no messing modding, lol

Seen it done - and it looks fine, but I doubt if it would suit my car - as I was going for a more subtle look.
Only thing that may be a problem for you is the white plugs that hold the red securing screws - you would have to take those out, and find a way to bolt your mdf panels to the shell.
Also 6mm mdf on its own would not be as strong against knocks and bumps (or excessively large rear passengers).

Rob (randomcruisers) used to have some with 6x9's in his cinq, and I think he made them pretty much the way you're describing - they looked pretty sweet in all fairness

 

[chaos]

Standard 6mm ply will be too thin IMO.

 

[ronnieronson]

Standard 6mm ply will be too thin IMO.

Aye quite possibly - I used 6mm on my project, and it works out ok, probably because of the other support provided by the fibreglass, foam, material, glue etc...

 

[K4RL]

Also 6mm mdf on its own would not be as strong against knocks and bumps (or excessively large rear passengers).

no, 6mm ply. only reason why i said that was that i alrady have some at my disposal. to be fair, i'd probably use either 9 or 12mm.

 

[Italian Coke Can]

Rob (randomcruisers) used to have some with 6x9's in his cinq, and I think he made them pretty much the way you're describing - they looked pretty sweet in all fairness

They're mine now. :yum:

Think they're only 6mm. They've got 6 or 8 self tappers on each and you just screw them straight into the shell (with some pilot holes of course).

The only issue i've got with their looks is that the speakers sit ON the front and sit out rather far, but they can't fit behind the pannel due to depth issues.

They're weren't purchased for looks, more so to free up boot space and try and shiftthe sound towards the centre of the car.