this weeks poll should be a heated topic, do you feel the government are treating us motorists overly harshly, particularly with fuel prices?
Fuel prices, do you think motorists are being unfairly punished at the pump?
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Fuel prices, do you think motorists are being unfairly punished at the pump?
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There was an interesting tweet about this the other day,
"Joy of being a UK taxpayer/motorist: RT @FuelPrices £100 earned. Pay £40 income tax. £60 left to fill up tank. £45 of which is tax. = 85%!"
Just sickens ya!
"Joy of being a UK taxpayer/motorist: RT @FuelPrices £100 earned. Pay £40 income tax. £60 left to fill up tank. £45 of which is tax. = 85%!"
Just sickens ya!
my worry is the cheapest place i could find, tesco, was selling for 124.9 per litre. The price is one thing but i often wonder whether they are putting all sorts of crap into the petrol to make it cheaper. so u either go for cheap petrol which is crap or BP which is something like 126.9 per litre and spend a fortune.....argh
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all the unleaded has ran out down in st.helens so they were giving super unleaded for 120 got a full tank lol. but its getting sill 129.9 around here and most of that is tax
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Keep hearing lots of stories of dodgy batches of tesco unleaded, so they obviously cut whats needed in there pretty fine
They cut what they have with biofuel
I did a post on here a couple of years ago testing tesco fuel against shell, the punto hgt i had then was very sensitive to fuels and was always thirsty, so the perfect vehicle to test
Anyway, the result was shell fuel was slightly more economical over 2 tankfulls by 2-3mpg, and also shell fuel made the car pull much better and was over a second quicker up to 60
Basicly, tesco fuel is crap.
They cut what they have with biofuel
I did a post on here a couple of years ago testing tesco fuel against shell, the punto hgt i had then was very sensitive to fuels and was always thirsty, so the perfect vehicle to test
Anyway, the result was shell fuel was slightly more economical over 2 tankfulls by 2-3mpg, and also shell fuel made the car pull much better and was over a second quicker up to 60
Basicly, tesco fuel is crap.
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tesco fuel is crap but at 3mpg it is still the ebtter option. as around here its 9p a liter cheaper so your saving way more going less...
found out my car does more mpg on the super unleaded as ive just got 402 out of a tank of it most ive ever had with normal is 368.... ill refill next time im rich or its cheap to concur....
tbh its silly price but most of the reports on fuels are in our heads. fithgear did a test on supermarket v branded and they were identical in mpg. even in performance on the dyno.... (not the one where they tested super). so im happy to fill up where is cheapest in this economy.
found out my car does more mpg on the super unleaded as ive just got 402 out of a tank of it most ive ever had with normal is 368.... ill refill next time im rich or its cheap to concur....
tbh its silly price but most of the reports on fuels are in our heads. fithgear did a test on supermarket v branded and they were identical in mpg. even in performance on the dyno.... (not the one where they tested super). so im happy to fill up where is cheapest in this economy.
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I got fyrther on the shell and it ran better
That wasn't in my head, it was a fact. Tests were done on the same roads at the same speeds
Indicated mpg was 23mpg on tesco iirc and 25.6 on shell. Around town it was between .5 and .9 better. On a long run it could get better than 4mpg better than on tesco.
Testing to 60 was harder, but the fastest i could do ir with tesco fuel was just over 9 seconds, on shell it was down in the very low 8's, the whole engine ran more efficiently.
I resumed the test on other cars slightly, on the calibra there was no difference in performance or economy, bmw no performance diference but better economy, cinq no economy difference but after running tesco fuel for a bit the car felt a bit chocked and slow at the top end, its now on its second full tank of regular shell unleaded and is feeling much quicker at the top end and more eager all round over about 50mph. No figures to back that up but it's not imagination
Seems to depend wildly on the engine tbh, but it tells a story all the negative changes i've found were from tesco fuel
Shell heres no dearer than tesco so unless im on fumes, thats where i go
That wasn't in my head, it was a fact. Tests were done on the same roads at the same speeds
Indicated mpg was 23mpg on tesco iirc and 25.6 on shell. Around town it was between .5 and .9 better. On a long run it could get better than 4mpg better than on tesco.
Testing to 60 was harder, but the fastest i could do ir with tesco fuel was just over 9 seconds, on shell it was down in the very low 8's, the whole engine ran more efficiently.
I resumed the test on other cars slightly, on the calibra there was no difference in performance or economy, bmw no performance diference but better economy, cinq no economy difference but after running tesco fuel for a bit the car felt a bit chocked and slow at the top end, its now on its second full tank of regular shell unleaded and is feeling much quicker at the top end and more eager all round over about 50mph. No figures to back that up but it's not imagination
Seems to depend wildly on the engine tbh, but it tells a story all the negative changes i've found were from tesco fuel
Shell heres no dearer than tesco so unless im on fumes, thats where i go
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i just go where is cheaper. lol. never had any major performance issues and never been left in the dust by like for like cars....
aye same here. plus i get tesco clubcard vouchers by using the pumps so managed to fill up the other day for £20. WIN!
When Clarkson is PM we'll no doubt be PAID to fill up.
Viva la Revolution!
Viva la Revolution!
I mainly fill up at work, as it's just easier than driving to other petrol stations.
At the mo Morrisons (my store) is £1,25.9 for unleaded & £1,29.9 for Diesel.
Nearest Shell for me is either Kilmarnock or Prestwick, & BP is BloodyPricey.
At the mo Morrisons (my store) is £1,25.9 for unleaded & £1,29.9 for Diesel.
Nearest Shell for me is either Kilmarnock or Prestwick, & BP is BloodyPricey.
I always go to the local Shell garage, it's 123.9 there the now for the standard stuff. Given I do short journeys all the time, I often just stick a tenner or so of V Power in as it's meant to be the best and do that a few times in a row when I can. I don't know if it's the placebo effect, but it does feel like the Stilo runs marginally better. I also think I get marginally better economy too, but not by a dramatic margin. At the moment though, I'm going with the cheaper option. Asda's about the same cost wise but the pay at pump doesn't like my card
I remember when I started driving back in '98, it was something like 82p a litre back then. I remember a few years later people going on about the £5 gallon and now it's sailed past £6 a gallon. I understand the price of oil going up and the government need to get their taxes to pay for our debts and everything else but if we could actually see results then that'd be a help. The mess that's been this winter and the nightmare amount of potholes (some of which are from last winter too) that never get fixed leading to piles of claims from motorists with damaged cars, the promised public transport improvements that never happen or go massively over budget due to bureaucratic idiocy, I just wonder where all the money actually goes. Probably more bloody average fricking speed cameras : /
I remember when I started driving back in '98, it was something like 82p a litre back then. I remember a few years later people going on about the £5 gallon and now it's sailed past £6 a gallon. I understand the price of oil going up and the government need to get their taxes to pay for our debts and everything else but if we could actually see results then that'd be a help. The mess that's been this winter and the nightmare amount of potholes (some of which are from last winter too) that never get fixed leading to piles of claims from motorists with damaged cars, the promised public transport improvements that never happen or go massively over budget due to bureaucratic idiocy, I just wonder where all the money actually goes. Probably more bloody average fricking speed cameras : /
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price of oil per barrel atm is lower than its been in 23 years aparently... yet prices are highest ever...... hmmm..
87% of cost is tax.
10% is profit for oil company.
3% is actual cost of oil........
uk government are a joke but they know they have you...
when i started driving 4 years ago it was only 85p... it went up there were strikes it went down... it went up there were protests then it went back to 79.9 in st.helens early 2010. now its going up again...
strike anyone???
87% of cost is tax.
10% is profit for oil company.
3% is actual cost of oil........
uk government are a joke but they know they have you...
when i started driving 4 years ago it was only 85p... it went up there were strikes it went down... it went up there were protests then it went back to 79.9 in st.helens early 2010. now its going up again...
strike anyone???
Problem with strikes is there are so many laws to break them up/prevent them even happening now, that they're ineffective. That and the general apathy of the British people.
Lots of talk today that the Government should put off Aprils duty increase...bet our Tory overlords don't though, lying swine.
Lots of talk today that the Government should put off Aprils duty increase...bet our Tory overlords don't though, lying swine.
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the point of a real strike tho usually defies laws... like the blockading of refineries... it was completely illegal yet effective... lets do it. FS petrol blockade.... could be a yearly event lol
Thing is the blockades werent illegal at the first strike. People will pay for fuel, gov. knows that. Don't know what we could do as a nation.
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same old story ! motorist's are an easy target for the goverment, i own a gp 1.9 diesel and at 1.31 a litre and rising ,when will it end,but what's the answer? i have also filled up with shell fuel and also find it better on economy , i like other motorist's try to stick to the same petrol station's,so have to pay up (sick of it)
we are getting ripped!
Talk of relief for folk living in remote areas: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12203099
Surely that covers most of us north of the border then?
Surely that covers most of us north of the border then?
