General Free 1994 Cinq, 900cc ..

[rallycinq]

Hey D-

have you ever seen this??

It's the 900cc version !

https://www.racedandrallied.com/rally-cars-for-sale/fiat-abarth-cinquecento-trofeo

Yup, the first Trofeo cars were 899s.

Later ones were 1108.

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[dante giacosa]

i think that's amazing-

why do you think they went for the 899cc engine..???

 

[rallycinq]

i think that's amazing-

why do you think they went for the 899cc engine..???

Simples, the 1108 didn't arrive on the market until 1994.

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[dante giacosa]

did they make Trofeo's post '94, with the 1108cc engine..?

 

[rallycinq]

did they make Trofeo's post '94, with the 1108cc engine..?

yup

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[dante giacosa]

ooh!

That's really interesting; there's everything to find out!!

 

[rallycinq]

Sunday update.

Boss and kids away for the day, freedom to footer.

Washers. Never before seen two simultaneous washer motor failures. Only one in stock, second one ordered.

Fuel filter. Has been changed at some point in the past. Pipes 'secured' by tie wraps. Just beside the exhaust...handy. New filter ordered.

Thrashing....done. Management light off.

Cleaning only until parts arrive.

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[dante giacosa]

Well,

That's all massively convenient then!

How much, er, thrashing did the car need, before it started to see sense..?

 

[rallycinq]

Up and down the farm road a couple of times....

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[dante giacosa]

Oh!

That doesn't sound so bad...!

 

[Mefistofele]

Rallycinq, I want to ask you a few questions, if you don't mind.

A 900 on Sporting springs and sporting rubber is a great wee thing. I had a Black one for ages as a run around, it loved being thrashed.

Is it possible to fit Sporting springs to a 900... without further modification? I mean, would I have to change suspension arms, for example (or all Cinquecentos have the same ones?)

Is it worthwhile to fit a front roll bar from a Sporting to a 900?

And finally - I suppose the six-speed gearbox is from a Punto Mk2?

Any info much appreciated - thanks!

 

[David C]

Is it possible to fit Sporting springs to a 900... without further modification? I mean, would I have to change suspension arms, for example (or all Cinquecentos have the same ones?)

Yes the Sporting springs fit fine.
I ran Seicento Abarth sporings & dampers on my 899 Cinq.

Is it worthwhile to fit a front roll bar from a Sporting to a 900?

I ran mine without the roll bar.
Removing the roll bar from a Sporting actually improves front grip in poor conditions as it allows the inner wheel to keep contact with the road.

 

[rallycinq]

Yes the Sporting springs fit fine.
I ran Seicento Abarth sporings & dampers on my 899 Cinq.

I ran mine without the roll bar.
Removing the roll bar from a Sporting actually improves front grip in poor conditions as it allows the inner wheel to keep contact with the road.

I agree with all of the above. If your dampers are still in good condition, lowering the car the small amount the Sporting springs give improves the handling but doesn't remove your teeth or allow the dampers to bottom out.

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[rallycinq]

And finally - I suppose the six-speed gearbox is from a Punto Mk2?

Any info much appreciated - thanks!

Punto Mk1. They did an 1108 Mk1 that was so underpowered it needed the close ratio 6 speed box.

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[rallycinq]

Progress report.

Both washer motors fitted yesterday, both NRVs blocked. Fortunately had 2 in stock so popped them in.

Washers working.

New front bumper half fitted, finish that job tonight and hopefully fuel filter arrives today too.

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[Mefistofele]

Yes the Sporting springs fit fine.
I ran Seicento Abarth sporings & dampers on my 899 Cinq.

I ran mine without the roll bar.
Removing the roll bar from a Sporting actually improves front grip in poor conditions as it allows the inner wheel to keep contact with the road.

Thanks, good to know about using those in a 900. I understand the ARB would be compatible too then.

My Cinquecento will see good-weather urban driving, mostly, with the occasional trip down the motorway... so I think I'll try to find an ARB.

Thanks again!

 

[Mefistofele]

Punto Mk1. They did an 1108 Mk1 that was so underpowered it needed the close ratio 6 speed box.

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OK, thanks. I understood the Punto 55S was very low-geared, and that's why people try to fit a Mk2 one for normal driving. In your case, of course, an Mk1 would suit you even better!

Allow me to ask you another question: I suppose the 900 cc engine and the six-speed gearboxes found in FIRE cars such as the Puntos are not compatible?

Thanks again and good luck with your present build.

 

[David C]

Thanks, good to know about using those in a 900. I understand the ARB would be compatible too then.

My Cinquecento will see good-weather urban driving, mostly, with the occasional trip down the motorway... so I think I'll try to find an ARB.

Yes the ARB will fit, you’ll need the brackets to attach them to the wishbones too.

But, it is a small and very light car, I didn’t miss not having an ARB.
Remember that adding one will increase understeer, so you may want to try it without first.

 

[rallycinq]

OK, thanks. I understood the Punto 55S was very low-geared, and that's why people try to fit a Mk2 one for normal driving. In your case, of course, an Mk1 would suit you even better!

Allow me to ask you another question: I suppose the 900 cc engine and the six-speed gearboxes found in FIRE cars such as the Puntos are not compatible?

Thanks again and good luck with your present build.

Correct, the six speed doesn't fit the 899.

Thank you, current build nearly finished, I hope

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[rallycinq]

Remember that adding one will increase understeer, so you may want to try it without first.

That....end of.

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