Franken Van

[Mr Petrol Head]

Hello everyone, thanks for letting me join.

I have this little red Fiorino 1.4 Van MY2009. Does this share its chassis with other cars where I can fit something very naughty under the bonnet or is it doomed to me thashing it to death on a daily basis ? I’be taken note of you lot dropping sexy names like Corsa VXR and Arbarth, which sound promising, but unsure what’s possible yet ?

Awaiting your knowledge and expertise on how to chuck money at things

See abs stunning (not) pic of “Pat the Van “ who’s waiting to debut at The Pod anytime soon.

Steve

 

[the green vanper]

Hello,

Haha, yes. It does share a chassis. And not only the chassis. I think that a direct swap from Peugeot Bipper and Citroen Nemo would be possible and quite easy.

Then, they are all based on the GM Fiat SCCS platform, so in theory anything starting from Grande Punto and AR Mito would be physically possible. The problem is modern cars are more computers than cars and coping with the electronics from one body work in another body could be very problematic...

So, unless someone tried and succeeded before, I wouldn't even bother trying.

 

[Mr Petrol Head]

Hello,

Haha, yes. It does share a chassis. And not only the chassis. I think that a direct swap from Peugeot Bipper and Citroen Nemo would be possible and quite easy.

Then, they are all based on the GM Fiat SCCS platform, so in theory anything starting from Grande Punto and AR Mito would be physically possible. The problem is modern cars are more computers than cars and coping with the electronics from one body work in another body could be very problematic...

So, unless someone tried and succeeded before, I wouldn't even bother trying.

Thank you Assuming I’d use the engine and box. I would need to use the loom, dash &
Stalks, anything else ?!

 

[the green vanper]

Looms, sensors, modules etc. And even then it could just not work, because some sensor could have wrong readings due to slightly different location etc.

The problem is the modules communicate with each other. So after replacing the engine ECU the new one will most probably fail to communicate with the old airbag / body etc...

The problem is highly complicated and could require some reverse engineering of the software in the modules.

I'm following a thread on another forum (of my daily non-fiat car) and long story short, the guys are trying to compare the contents of the central module of the same model and year of the car (but with different engine) which at first everyone thought should be different, but seem to be the same! And despite that after swapping it doesn't work... It seems that the contents is common, but there's somewhere a thing (ie. small resistor with different value) which makes the module to use one data tables and not the others on this engine...

If you really want to have a sleeper van, choose one without the CAN (so, at least one generation older). Or find one that someone built and tested. And now is willing to sell

 

[the green vanper]

Just to let you have an idea, those are photos of the motherboard of the body module of my 2011 Ducato x250 (model launched in 2006):

 

[Mr Petrol Head]

Looms, sensors, modules etc. And even then it could just not work, because some sensor could have wrong readings due to slightly different location etc.

The problem is the modules communicate with each other. So after replacing the engine ECU the new one will most probably fail to communicate with the old airbag / body etc...

The problem is highly complicated and could require some reverse engineering of the software in the modules.

I'm following a thread on another forum (of my daily non-fiat car) and long story short, the guys are trying to compare the contents of the central module of the same model and year of the car (but with different engine) which at first everyone thought should be different, but seem to be the same! And despite that after swapping it doesn't work... It seems that the contents is common, but there's somewhere a thing (ie. small resistor with different value) which makes the module to use one data tables and not the others on this engine...

If you really want to have a sleeper van, choose one without the CAN (so, at least one generation older). Or find one that someone built and tested. And now is willing to sell

OK…. NOS it is then.