Technical Fiat Stilo ASR Failure

[trigger2085]

i bought my stilo just over a week ago and the engine keeps cutting out and the computer says its an asr failure, i took it to the gargage and they cleared all the faults on the computer FOR FREE!! and said it could be something and nothing! but it still kept cutting out..

I read about changing the battery ahich i have now done but its still the same, also there is a drivers airbag failure.

any advice would be appreciated!

i am a total novice. but i did read something about plugs? could you shed some lihght on where they are.

thanks trigger2085

 

[Yellow Peril]

Have you tried three or four starts since fitting the new battery? It can take this to clear the error messages...

 

[Deckchair5]

You can clear most fault codes by simply disconnecting the battery for a while. But why would you want to? They're giving a good clue as to where to start looking

The garage didnt clear the faults, they cleared the fault codes and when you drove the car again the fault was still there! No wonder they didn't charge anything, they didn't do anything!

Better off buying a cheap fault code reader then YOU can see what fault codes are stored and you can, if you wish erase codes. Even better get an interface if you have a laptop so you can SEE what's going on with your car

What engine is it?
Read up on cleaning your throttle valve and air bag light warning in the Stilo Guides up above

ASR failure is one of the first circuits to detect low voltage. That doesn't mean you have to buy a new battery, just investigate why the supply voltage is low which could more often simply be poor connections on the supply circuit

Again, look in Stilo Guides for curing a bad earth

 

[trigger2085]

Have you tried three or four starts since fitting the new battery? It can take this to clear the error messages...

I've been driving it as normal and for some reason its just cuts out saying asr failure loose connection!

could this be connected to the throttle valve/ bad earth as Deckchair5 said??

thanks for the help!!!

 

[trigger2085]

Re: Sorting a bad battery earth

My car keeps getting a alternator failure and ASR failure and loads of people seem to say that Fiat's have a bad earth connection.

Do you think this could solve the problems???

My car is a 52 1.6 Stilo active.

Thanks for any advice

trigger2085

 

[Argonought]

Re: Sorting a bad battery earth

My car keeps getting a alternator failure and ASR failure and loads of people seem to say that Fiat's have a bad earth connection.

I'd say you're on the ball

...but it's very important to make sure it's not just a weak battery.

 

[sasha015]

Dont you read forums?Use search or use google.
There is post about This problem since 2003.and problem is repeat....People bought new car and get this warning 28 miles from garage ))
Nothing will help you.New battery,changing sensors,cleaning fuse box, cleaning d4 conector,brake-light switch..No,no,no-I try everything
Problem is ecu.ECU
I am geting this message and cut of,since i bought car,1 year ago.After changing ecu,everything was fine for 5 months.Until 7 days ago.Again "asr failure,loose conection" or "asr faillure,alternator faillure-loose conection" and car is cat-of,while driving.I change ecu again( repeare) and now it works fine.
How long-dont know...
It is factory failure on 1.6 stilo.Ecu is to close to engine and geting warm...
My advice is-sell the car and you will dont have problem.I am selling mine.

 

[Davren]

My advice is-sell the car and you will dont have problem.I am selling mine.

It doesn't really help telling people to sell the car if they have a problem.

You wouldn't have been very happy if when you asked for pictures to show how to adjust your headlamps, I told you to sell the car.

 

[sasha015]

Sorry,i was just little angry on my stilo.It gives me so much trouble with ecu and warnings.
It is my advice after 1 year driving this car.i change a lot of parts and as you change something, new things is broken.
i dont know how much is ecu in GB,but here is about 800e new in fiat garage or 400euro "use one".You have to change body comp,imo and decoding key.It is very expensive.800e for car of 2500 euro...Hmmm....
Or you can repeare .Here is 200 e or if you know someone,friends who know to do that electonical "mambo-jambo" for free ))
I pay 200e and after 5 months problem return.How much time shall i pay for ecu.Car has a factory problem .
I know this problem very well,cos i spend days in fiat garage,several time was on examiner,cleaning by myself all sensors,d4,changing brake light switch and finaly change ecu.Sometimes car cut-of in speed of 50 miles/hour.it is not nice expirience.That is why i going straight to the point-ECU IS PROBLEM.
Or you can change batery,brake light switch,clean all conection and spent hours and hours looking for solution instead to do something else in your life.paying expensive parts and finaly,when nothing else what can you,you have to look first thing-ecu.
No hard feelings.I wish that member who start topics find solution and be happy with Stilo.I dream about stilo for couple years,but-new car is best car.

 

[Argonought]

I pay 200e and after 5 months problem return.

When you get repeated problems over and over again it's usually a pretty good sign that the real issue was never properly discovered in the first place.

Many ECUs for example are replaced when the real problem is due to poor contact, or corrosion, on the wiring harness. A new ECU often seems to resolve the problem because one side of the problem contacts are effectively renewed which gives the system a temporary new lease of life.

An ECU, like any electronics component, can of course suffer failure (which in a stressed environment is likely to be a poor solder joint more than anything) but repeated 'failure' should be treated with extreme suspicion.

 

[Soulfly76]

Ive came to one solution.

After watching an increasing failure of the asr/esp of my car lately I came to the conclusion. It happens when cold, rainy or snowy. Got me thinking that our boots/footwear must evaporize water as we heat the car.

Decided to put WD40 on the brake switch just below the driving wheel. And tell you this. Havent got this problem again.

Give a try

 

[AbarthWolf]

Ive came to one solution.

After watching an increasing failure of the asr/esp of my car lately I came to the conclusion. It happens when cold, rainy or snowy. Got me thinking that our boots/footwear must evaporize water as we heat the car.

Decided to put WD40 on the brake switch just below the driving wheel. And tell you this. Havent got this problem again.

Give a try

Now you come to mention it, I haven't had these failures for the last 4 weeks and they were an ever present up until the good weather.

Personally, I don't care about the Asr/ESp failures anymore, I just ignore the warning and keep on driving.

 

[Davren]

Most ASR/ESP/ABS warning messages are false warnings caused by a low battery. The battery uses a chemical reaction and heat acts as a catalyst on that reaction. When the ambient temperature is higher the battery works better, so no warning messages.

 

[TosoMak]

Can we make a database witch of the Stilo`s have most problems ... example .. engine model, year of production... level of equipment .. so we can identify the most "faulty" production series?

 

[uc4]

Yeah I have the same problem with mine.
Newbie with a host of problems - Stilo Abarth Selespeed 2003 (03) 5dr

 

[Gower1983]

Ive had this fault with my car before and all what you might read on these forums , most is utter rubbish , If the asr/esp warning light is flashing while staionary or while driving and it feels a bit sluggish or even worst case cutting out , it is clearly a electrical fault, Fiat stilo's have igntion coils that send electronic signals to the engine as well as effecting performance , if you get these problems above then 99% of the time it is a faulty coil and the other 1% could be a break light switch(silly i know) i've heard of people getting new computer body's/steering wheel sensors/batterys/alternators.. WASTE OF MONEY IN MY OPINION... speak to someone who actually knows what they are on a bout. Stilos are common for coil failures, Dont listen to people who say check ecu/battery voltage and all that yama, PEACE

 

[Davren]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.... no matter how wrong that opinion may be.

PS.... Welcome to the FF.

 

[AbarthWolf]

I still get these warnings although sometimes they're more frequent than at other times.

One thing I do know for sure though, I only get these failures on the Motorway. I can drive around on the estates and cities all day long, no asr/esp failure.

As soon as I get on the Motorway, sometimes it can 3 miles, sometimes about 20 miles and I get the audible warning followed by the warning light. I stop at the services, turn the engine off and restart the engine and the warning goes.

Again, a short cruise down the motorway and it comes back on. Weird eh? I will try to get to the bottom of it at sometime but first I'm getting a timing belt change and water pump replacement followed by a juicy service. Then, I'm going to find out how much it's going to cost to get my Air-Con working and the rest of my vents as I only get super hot air out some of the vents and the others don't work at all.

I love Stilo's!

 

[nutty1980]

i have just bought a stilo a week ago aswell, and i am having same problems as you, i have changed battery and cleaned the plugs up but no joy. i am taking to a fiat dealer were i live who are gonna do a diagnostic test and a thorough check over the vehichle, as the dealer i bought it from is as puzzled as me.

 

[Maigretnz]

If you have a computer cable and software monitor the battery voltage to observe if there is a dip when the problem occurs.