Re: the dedicated power cable that needs wiring in, who's done it? How did you do it and did you use anything not included?
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Liam
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Liam
FAO: Alpine Owners, installing highpower Head Units
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Right, had a go at this and used 4 individual speakers cables (the thin kind) bound together for a power lead, is this ok or should I buy a thicker gauge single cable?
I wired it up roughly to test it out and didn't get a response from the HU but was wondering if it had to do with the red wires with bullet connectors which are meant for the ignition but Cinq's don't have a switch on the ignition circuit for the radio as it's always on without keys if you wish.
Anyone?
Liam
I wired it up roughly to test it out and didn't get a response from the HU but was wondering if it had to do with the red wires with bullet connectors which are meant for the ignition but Cinq's don't have a switch on the ignition circuit for the radio as it's always on without keys if you wish.
Anyone?
Liam
Hi mate, without looking its hard remember how i did mine. You have red wires for the ignition which connect together using bullet connectors without any other wiring required. You have a yellow wire that is a direct to the battery. (this HAS to be 1 thick wire and fused at some point, pref near the battery as it will cause probs if it is not 1 wire) You also have a new ground wire to run which has to be the same gauge as the power. Using the copper free speaker wire is fine as long as you are consistent. Any chance you can take a photo of how you have the wiring harness at the mo?
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Sorry Dan, I've stripped the harness back out and locked things up.
Obviously my wiring idea was **** so I'll either get some wire or raid my unopened amp wiring kit for stuff. Why don't they just give you a few metres of the black and yellow wires? Cheapskates.
As for the fuse, do I need another one for by the one in the grey box in the middle of the yellow wire?
Liam
Obviously my wiring idea was **** so I'll either get some wire or raid my unopened amp wiring kit for stuff. Why don't they just give you a few metres of the black and yellow wires? Cheapskates.
As for the fuse, do I need another one for by the one in the grey box in the middle of the yellow wire?
Liam
IIRC the grey box isnt a fuse is it? I got my HU second hand and had a seperate length of wire with another fuse in it. PM me tomorrow night if i havent remembered by then and i'll have a look for you. 
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The grey box has a 20amp small blade fuse in it and has some sort of PCB too, I thought this is just a replication of the protection in the cars standard fuse box etc?
I'll take pics of the harness and arrow parts to where I think they plug into/connect and you can correct me on the wrong bits.
I'll do that tomorrow cos I'm knacked tonight.
Cheers
Liam
I'll take pics of the harness and arrow parts to where I think they plug into/connect and you can correct me on the wrong bits.
I'll do that tomorrow cos I'm knacked tonight.
Cheers
Liam
I took a feed straight from the battery (to the yellow, fused line) and earthed using the OE stereo earth lead using wire one size up than the yellow lead.
Worked a treat but I wasn't using the HU amp to drive my speakers.
Worked a treat but I wasn't using the HU amp to drive my speakers.
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It's alive! It's alive!
Wired it in last night, took feed straight from the positive terminal, through the bulkhead and down the rear of the dash (used 16AWG cable). earthed it on a bolt for the clutch cable housing and wired up the Alpine harness to my ISO and hey presto!
I couldn't get it to go the other night cos I never wired up the positive and negative part of the harness to the the cars existing wiring i.e the seond black connector which ain't for the speakers, silly me thought I didn't need it cos it was gettting it's own power feed and earth.
So, it's all in now, so is the shelve too.
First impressions? How did I not buy one earlier? I've a constant ringing in my ears after giving them a bashing! It's loud and likely has the potential to pop some speakers if you get carried away.
Remote control is nifty too, works very well, volume, play and a few other functions on it.
Only thing I don't like is the sound quality of some lower bitrate tracks compared to the original, I'll likely rip my cds at 320kbps to try and make it sound decent.
Liam
Wired it in last night, took feed straight from the positive terminal, through the bulkhead and down the rear of the dash (used 16AWG cable). earthed it on a bolt for the clutch cable housing and wired up the Alpine harness to my ISO and hey presto!
I couldn't get it to go the other night cos I never wired up the positive and negative part of the harness to the the cars existing wiring i.e the seond black connector which ain't for the speakers, silly me thought I didn't need it cos it was gettting it's own power feed and earth.
So, it's all in now, so is the shelve too.
First impressions? How did I not buy one earlier? I've a constant ringing in my ears after giving them a bashing! It's loud and likely has the potential to pop some speakers if you get carried away.
Remote control is nifty too, works very well, volume, play and a few other functions on it.
Only thing I don't like is the sound quality of some lower bitrate tracks compared to the original, I'll likely rip my cds at 320kbps to try and make it sound decent.
Liam
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Thought MX was supposed to take care of the low bitrate problems?
And 320kbps theres really no point cd quality is around 160kbps anyways. so you'll just be making bigger files and getting no gains in quality.
And 320kbps theres really no point cd quality is around 160kbps anyways. so you'll just be making bigger files and getting no gains in quality.
Just to verify what wozza said, hes 100% correct. CD's are recorded about 150/160. If you download CD tracks / record them just do them at 192 which iirc is the closest you can get to the original without affecting the size of the file. The only other rate you can download at is 128 which is not as good. After all if you really are after the best quality simply dont download music, just buy the CD. I only download music if i want one track, but most of the time i'll avoid it
After all if you really are after the best quality simply dont download music, just buy the CD. I only download music if i want one track, but most of the time i'll avoid it
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Well Media Expander is only really a fancy name for "loudness" in my book and normal audio cd tracks are something like over 1K kbps so there is obviously a difference.
Once I noticed it I did a dearch and found this
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=113582
Liam
Once I noticed it I did a dearch and found this
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=113582
Liam
wozza
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yes and some of that i read was plain rubbish.
If you copy a cd an original to another CD. it is a PERFECT digital copy They cd's should be EXACTLY the same. not differnt at all. as you are only copying zeros and ones. this is like taking a file from 1 hard drive and moving it to another there the same files they dont get destroyed after numerous moves there always identical.
Yes there will be some difference between MP3 and original but in all fairness a decently encoded track wont generally be noticed until you start craning the volume up some what. i use mp3's that i ripped to other cd's i also made copies of cds i own to put in the car cause they always get scratched and i dont want the orignals wrecked and even on a decent system theres no difference that i can hear.
Guess it depends on who encoded it though and how they did it. i know earlier tracks i encoded getting used to software sound naff but the ones i do now are near enough perfect. You lose a little bit but generally mp3's cut out the frequency reanges most people arent capable of hearing.
If you copy a cd an original to another CD. it is a PERFECT digital copy They cd's should be EXACTLY the same. not differnt at all. as you are only copying zeros and ones. this is like taking a file from 1 hard drive and moving it to another there the same files they dont get destroyed after numerous moves there always identical.
Yes there will be some difference between MP3 and original but in all fairness a decently encoded track wont generally be noticed until you start craning the volume up some what. i use mp3's that i ripped to other cd's i also made copies of cds i own to put in the car cause they always get scratched and i dont want the orignals wrecked and even on a decent system theres no difference that i can hear.
Guess it depends on who encoded it though and how they did it. i know earlier tracks i encoded getting used to software sound naff but the ones i do now are near enough perfect. You lose a little bit but generally mp3's cut out the frequency reanges most people arent capable of hearing.
