Technical Extra gauges

[CLXCraig]

Having seen Andrew's post in the "what have you done" thread, about an oil pressure gauge, how easy are extra guages to fit

I've seen something on ebay for sale that i'm interested in, its a bunch of gauges for a VW/Audi. It only looks like the gauges with the wires, no sensors

Its got:
Oil Temp, oil pressure, and voltage.

How do you install them and what is needed?

 

[aca]

Having seen Andrew's post in the "what have you done" thread, about an oil pressure gauge, how easy are extra guages to fit

I've seen something on ebay for sale that i'm interested in, its a bunch of gauges for a VW/Audi. It only looks like the gauges with the wires, no sensors

Its got:
Oil Temp, oil pressure, and voltage.

How do you install them and what is needed?

Its easy to install. I already install rev-counter. Voltage and coolant temp gauge onto my 1.1MPI City Van plan to install next weekend. You can find all items onto www.lampa.it (section instruments)
1.1MPI Pandas have a two ignition coils, so in case of rev-counter you must find gauge with pre-installed switch for 2-4-6 coils (onto gauge), and for the temp gauge you must add coolant hose extension 30 mm dia, also from www.lampa.it (coolant temp sensor is included with gauge)

Most of www.lampa.it instruments and accesories (inclinometers, air diffusors, mud flaps, etc....is offered in usual car parts shops over EU.
If somebody need details abt instalment just ask....
Aca

 

[CLXCraig]

For rev counters you can attach signal wire to pin23 of the ecu.

i'm after knowing where to fit the oil temp and pressure sensors. Volt meter seems simple enough.

 

[aca]

For rev counters you can attach signal wire to pin23 of the ecu.

i'm after knowing where to fit the oil temp and pressure sensors. Volt meter seems simple enough.

Ecu onto 1.1MPI is MagnettiMarreli 16IAF, so there is different schematics. Simply I use gauge with switch for 2-4-6 ignition coils, turned to 2 coil position and took signal from one (of two) coils (from red power supply wire from one coil. To avoid lot of works, signal wire from gauge is connected to acupunture needle, and needle is picked into red power supplu - fixed with pcs of duck tape). Works well for now:slayer:

 

[aca]

i'm after knowing where to fit the oil temp and pressure sensors. Volt meter seems simple enough.

See the end of this list:

http://www.lampa.it/eng/Prodotti_Sottocategoria.asp?P=SS04

There is oil sender adapter (olil fitrer is mounted onto adapter - not directly onto engine) and senders for preassure and temp of oil is mounted onto adapte). Coolant sender is mounted onto t-hose adapter inserted onto some coolant hose *upper from radiator) or onto same place for existing temp sender, using 4-inputs adapter *see pic onto link above.
Alternatively oil senders could be attached onto place of draining bolt but predominantly you should find somebody to make it (its very rear into shops). Also gearbox oil temp alternatively should be measured by sender fixed instead of draining bolt to gearbox. I see this onto German-Panda forum - they use speciall sender bolted instead of draining bolt to measure engine and gearbox oil temp and preassure.
See landmeters into lampa.it - one of them is amost same as on 4x4 Pandas
http://www.lampa.it/eng/Prodotti_scheda.asp?P=74040

 

[arc]

with the audi gauges, you may struggle. you've no idea what it's sender units were - they could even be ECU driven.

I have oil temperature, oil pressure, exhaust temperature, air fuel ratio and vacuum pressure gauges. The oil ones use the senders that came with the gauges. For the temperature one i had a hole drilled into the sump and put the sensor there, for the oil pressure sender i removed the stock oil switch (near the filter) and then modified that T piece to make to the new one fit (wrong thread)

the easiest way is to use one of these;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sandwich-Adap...66:2|39:1|72:1689|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

i would've done, but they don't the 1.4 16v engine!

 

[CLXCraig]

The listng does say new loom available, so it could well be ECU. Personally dont fancy touching the sump as its my daily driver and only vehicle.

Some rethinking to do!

 

[firstcar-Y10]

wouldn't go with the Audi ones anyway. The oil pressure one I had on was a veglia off some unknown old Alfa but I did have the matching sender unit. Lack of a decent seal on that was probably just down to wear and tear, both gauge and sender had been kicking about in a box of stuff for some time. That sender was designed to fit in the hole where the normal sensor for the warning light normally goes. right next to the oil filter. Easy gauges to fit are the electrically driven ones, Volt meter only needs a switched live (plus a live feed from the lights for illumination) so doesn't even involve feeding a wire through the bulkhead and in Italians it's always reassuring to know your electric isn't leaking Tacho is a feed from the coil (or ECU on newfangled ones).
If you are looking new then for oil pressure go for the sandwich plate and a nice matched fresh sender and gauge. If you want to go second hand...erm...I spent all morning yesterday with three different senders and four gauges, none of which really worked right. The only one that was reliable was a mechanical gauge but fitting one of those involves running a little pipe of hot oil into your cabin which just doesn't sound a great idea.

 

[CLXCraig]

Hmm, I'll probably only go for a tacho and perhaps voltmeter.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Hmm, I'll probably only go for a tacho and perhaps voltmeter.

Cool. Give us a scream if your need help/tips with the tacho (although I think you already know what pin to connect it to )

Jon.

 

[CLXCraig]

I'm confident doing it, read one of your first posts about it the other day.

Hardest bit will be finding somewhere to mount the pod

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

I'm confident doing it, read one of your first posts about it the other day.

Hardest bit will be finding somewhere to mount the pod

Seen this


(God my voice )

 

[CLXCraig]

Does that idle at ~1300rpm? seems bloody high, i thought they were ~900

 

[allen fletcher]

On or around 850-950rpm would be normal I fit three gauges to my 4x4 panda rev counter volt meter and oil pressure gauge elec type via tee piece and existing oil swith. The problem I had was finding a pod to take the three gauges on my old Ford Anglia I had a four hole.but I have never found another one since

 

[arc]

The listng does say new loom available, so it could well be ECU. Personally dont fancy touching the sump as its my daily driver and only vehicle.

Some rethinking to do!

the easiest way is to use one of these;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sandwich-Adap...66:2|39:1|72:1689|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

:slayer::slayer:

get that and some autogauge gauges, and it is as easy as fitting a new oil filter, no messing with the sump.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Does that idle at ~1300rpm? seems bloody high, i thought they were ~900

Was cold engine (as said in video,in the winter aswell) Idles at about 850-900 when warm

 

[CLXCraig]

Ohh, i was at work when i watch with no sound