COUPLE OF STUPID QUESTIONS FROM MY MATE

[Anonymous]

rite, hes wanting to know if you can do the following:

you know the bit thats just at the back of the front wheel, where it goes down a bit to join up to the bit that goes lower a bit on the front bumper, well can u remove that or cut it off? its just he wants it to go in a straight line all the way around as he doesnt like bodykits.

AND

60mm springs on standard shocks? ok?

ta!

 

[Ozric-Al]

Well if you pull the bit off the bit at the bit by the bit at the front bit that bit will be a bit out of line with the bit.

If however, you push the bit it will be a bit better.

And you may find the machine that goes "PING!"



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[Sparkey]

an it flipped over and landed on all four wheels!

 

[Jayfish]

lost me a bit on the bits bit, but the usually recommendation is no lower than 35-40mm on standard shocks

 

[Tom]

IT MAKES NO BLOODY DIFFERENCE IF YOU HAVE STANDARD SHOCKS OR NOT!

Why do people persist with this daft idea you need some sort of special shock for lowered springs? It makes NO difference what so EVER how low the car is. The ONLY time you need different shocks is if you want to lower further than the bump stops.

The car CANNOT go any lower than the bump stops (thats what they are there for)

Standard shocks are designed to work for the WHOLE range of movement of the stock suspension.

Lowering 60mm won't change the bumpstops so there is NO NEED for 'special' shocks.

How many times do I have to say this....

 

[Anonymous]

surely a compressed shock absorber with little travel will be less efficent than a shorter shock designed for the job?

 

[Tom]

No. It does not matter WHERE in its travel the shock is they will work exactly the same. Sorta the whole point of the design of a shock.

The ONLY time you have problems is when you RUN OUT of travel. IF you still have the bump stops you will NEVER run out of shock travel.

As standard the shocks have about 2" MORE travel than the spring (be it normal or 60mm lowered) could ever have.

The front shocks have about 10" travel, given that under normal load they are only compressed about 2" (so not even in this mythical 'middle') they still have about 8" to go. The bump stop is about 3" long and will stop you long before you get coil bind on the springs.

Fitting lowered springs will actually move the shock closer to the 'middle' of its travel.

 

[Sparkey]

well, what are dampers then?

 

[Tom]

Sparkey, I'm gonna pretend I did not see that and I'm gonna let you go away and do some reading

 

[Sparkey]

ha ha ok daddy!

 

[Sparkey]

This means that f = -cv or f = -cx* where c is the damping coefficient, or drag coefficient. yup now i know what they are!

 

[Tom]

Yup, dampers and shocks are the same thing

 

[Sparkey]

hmm, yes, yes they are! just curious tom, what difference does it make to the shock if say i had 60mm springs on one car and 35mm ones on another, would the handling be much different?

 

[Jayfish]

Well if you will be so bloody efficient and answer every techy question, you're bound to get a few repeats (bit like only fools and horses at xmas)

You need a speaker like in the commons 'I refer the honourable member to the answer i gave moments ago'

thanks again for clearing that up