Could my car (1998 Brava 1.8 ELX) be an insurance write off?

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Could my car (1998 Brava 1.8 ELX) be an insurance write off?

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Gerry

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Audi A6 ran in to nearside front wheel on Saturday. Steering now way out - have to turn the steering wheel 45 degrees to get it to drive in a straight line! Damage to front wing and passenger side door will also mean they will have to be replaced. Alloy wheel well scraped so that will also need replacing (will Fiat supply 1 alloy wheel for a 1998 model or am I looking for 4 new?)

On a good day the car might be worth about £1500 but I'm worried that the cost of the above will means it's uneconomic to repair. Thing is I've really looked after the car - with regular servicing and many new parts (it's unmodded). I simply could not get a car of equivalent quality & condition for the money which I might be offered.

The other guy has admitted it was 100% his fault and I'm waiting to see if his insurer (Saga - fully comp) will admit liability. This will allow me to get a hire car off his policy.

I'm with Direct Line and it will be them who will decide if it's an economic repair job. It will be Friday before I know the score but I'm quite worried that the cost of everything will take it over the cost of economic repair.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Gerry
 
Bump (like what happened to my beloved Brava! :(

Thanks

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sounds like a cat d write off, but only if direct line go thru the normal fiat dealers, could definitely be fixed for cheaper than the car is worth! generally tho insurance assessors just tick the write off box rather than ringin round, thats what happened to my bike (2 broken fairing panels and a dented tank on a £1500 bike and they wrote it off!) good luck tho!
 
A write off would be terrible news. I'm currently driving about in a hired new Almera which the third-party insurer will have to pay for. This will no doubt also be factored into the "uneconomic" repair calculation. If my wee Brava can be fixed it's going to be in the garage for a couple of weeks so the cost of the car hire will mount up.

Given the damage and the value of the car I think I'm fooked.

Can I argue the toss if the assessor wants to write it off? If its repairable can I accept the cash and then buy it off the insurer for a song? Never been down this road before. :(

Gerry
Edinburgh
 
If they write it off, you do have the option to buy it off them, but bear in mind it will be classed on its history as a write off, so you propably could ever sell it on to anyone. I did happen to read somewhere that by "common law" you are entitled to have your car in ecatly the same condition as before your accident but maybe someone knows differant?
 
Firstly, don't hire a car yourself, if your insurance won't give you one call Drive Assist http://www.driveassist.co.uk/ and ask them about getting a hire car. They will ask you about the accident and if they think you are not to blame will give you a hire car. They will then go to the third party's insurer to reclaim it, not through your insurance, they will do it all direct for you.

Secondly, you will have to wait for the insurance assessor unfortunately. But most insurance companies use independant repair centres (except Churchill who have their own third rate ones) and the cost may not be as high as you would think. Fiat will have to supply the parts but are not actually too bad for parts prices, and they should do single alloys.
 
In the past, Direct Line have refused to let me buy my cars back. They said its not their policy to sell cars back to customers regardless of whether the customer can get it done cheaper.

Might be different in your case, but be prepared to lose your Brava just as precaution.

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Dec '97 1.8GT / 111,500 miles (New engine @ 77,000)
Current Status: Cracked windscreen and 2 rear bulbs blown
 
you could also claim for whiplash witch could get you some more money!! :)
 
Didn't have a passenger did you?

When I crashed my bike with a pillion (gf) she claimed on my insurance. Got £7200 :)
 
Yippee!

Car was repaired under third pary's insurance.

New alloy, wing and steering arm. With panel beating, steering alignment, labour and stuff the bill came to £1200! Not much less than value of car.

Close run thing.

Thank you dear assessor!

Gerry
Penicuik
 
Re: Could my car (1998 Brava 1.8 ELX) be an insurance write off? September 3 2005, 12:46 AM


Yippee!

Car was repaired under third pary's insurance.

New alloy, wing and steering arm. With panel beating, steering alignment, labour and stuff the bill came to £1200! Not much less than value of car.

Close run thing.

Thank you dear assessor!

Gerry
Penicuik
 
For general info, if your car is recovered where it is likely you will make an insurance claim, have it brought home if you have space because as soon as it goes to the insurer's authorised repairer, you will not likley see it again.

These 'authorised repairers' want older vehicles off the road and the insurance assessors/loss adjusters that work under the same roofs, just write them off so the repairer gets to keep the car. If repairs are straight forward they can make a killing repairing it afterwards at their own cheap rate and then put your perfectly good car back on the road or alternatively sell it through an auction or as salvage for some other toe rag to make money out of your pride and joy. The insurers then give you a crap pay out which would only buys you a clapped out banger and then they jack up your premium so you can no longer afford to run a car.

I had a car attempted stolen, fortunately the TGBs didn't get away with it so I had it brought home. It wasn't badly damaged apart from bent door and broken steering lock and localised wiring cut as they tried to hot wire it - a diesel. The recovery chap didn't start it as he said it would melt the wiring.

I wanted a motor engineer to assess it on my drive but R&SA said absolutely no, as it had to go to their authorised repairer. They said I wouldn't get a hire car unless I did so. I have another car anyway and did't want a hire car. I stuck my heels in and told them I wanted it inspected at my house as if it went to their authorised repairer then they would write it off. But they still refused to provide a home assessement so we ended at stale mate. Then the insurers agreed to return the car to me at no cost what ever the decision, which I thought was a mini victory considering.

A gorilla with knuckles dragging on the floor then collected it. His eyes lit up when he saw it. He started it up, causing the electrics to melt, walked around the car for about 10 mins noting every miniscule mark he could find then drove it onto a low loader. I asked was it kind of risky to drive it, as opposed to, winching it on? Suffice to say he must have done the same thing the other end despite me telling him to disconnect the battery. He probably took it for a few laps around the compound.

2 hours 40 minutes later Roger Giles Bodywork(Cambs) called me to tell me the car was a write off as the electrics were very badly melted. Well they weren't burned before it entered into your care....I had taken pics of the damage the thieves did prior to their collection so if the wiring had since deteriorated it was down to Roger Giles Cowboys.

I had an horrific arguement with them - a bunch of cowboys and R&SA as well. They had written it off as unrepairable but I had a good local garage estimate it wouldn't cost more then £460 including parts (secondhand) to repair where Roger Giles said it would cost at least £1,800 in labour alone.

So the moral of the story is if you are sad and love your car and you have space at home, have it taken there, as it is still your property despite being damaged.

Although the car was brought back at no charge they initally wanted £130 to bing it back!

R&SA were only offering £700 as a pay out, again big arguement as this was too low. By now I had written several nasty letters to R&SA demanding an explanation as to why their authorised repairers were clearly so incompetent to drive a car with bare electrics casued by an attempted hot wire job thus causing more damage to my car. They all wanted to pass the buck. I told them that any shortfall in the payout against true market value, I would claim from them as it was their repairer's incompetence in looking after the car that had caused me more loss and then a clear conflict of interest in assessing the car's condition impartially whilst potentially benefitting if it was written off as they get to keep it. It is one big racket rip off. As was not going to let this happen, no way.

In the end the pay out I negotiated was £1,250. I got to keep the car, had it repaired locally and now continue to enjoy driving it.

Must make it clear there was no structural damage or panel damage at all to the car. If there had been then I would have accepted that it was dead. Ok the door frame was a bit bent but that was straightened in 2 minutes.

The police never caught the thieves despite having CCTV recording in the car park.
 
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just thought i would add this.had 2 claims last year on my brava 1.4 12v(sucks) 1997 r plate first one someone reversed into back wing causing huge dent with creases,went to approved repairer recomended by my insurer,thought it would be write off,guy at garage said the insurer would accept his word that its worth repairing,i thought it was write off as it needs to be joined at roof and sill but was repaired,2nd one was traveleing @ about 70mph on motorway and someones spare wheel fell off their peugot,2 cars went over it before i hit it,it ripped off whole exhaust inc. manifold,sump,full bumper,radiator,and some other bits,was shocked they repaired it all,just how much are they worth?ps my insurers(ESURE)told me to phone other parties insurers to deal with it in order not to pay the excess(which i did)they would intervene if any hassle,was dreading my renewal,but was cheaper than year before...lol
 

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