Technical Clutch issue

[Big Black Stilo]

I had a couple of issues with the clutch on our Fiat 500S.

One was sudden loss of being able to disengage the clutch, the other being if you rested your foot on the clutch, after about 5-10 seconds the pedal will sink as though the clutch is losing pressure.

I have swapped out the slave cylinder and that has resolved the sudden loss issue, but the issue of the pedal sinking if you rest your foot on it has remained.

There is no loss of clutch fluid, and no leaking on the quick release joint, it has been fully bled and if you don’t rest your foot on the clutch, it works fine.

I’m suspecting the master cylinder has also failed and will need replacing, but before I stump up nearly £150-£200 on a part, which most of it will be discarded as I’m not touching the quick release, I just wanted to check if this was also the experience of forum members and I haven’t missed anything else.

 

[jackwhoo]

Hi,

A, don't rest foot on clutch pedal it will rapidly wear out clutch components.

B, the symptoms are classic master cylinder seal worn.

Best

 

[John202020]

Hi,

A, don't rest foot on clutch pedal it will rapidly wear out clutch components.

B, the symptoms are classic master cylinder seal worn.

Best

This

This is £90 if you use the discount code in the listing

Clutch Master Cylinder fits FIAT 500 312 1.2 2007 on 169A4.000 LuK 55187040 New | eBay

FIAT 55187040. Schaeffler LuK L-05025-0G33-00, L-05H25-0G33-00, L050250G3300, L05H250G3300. FIAT 500 (312_) 1.2 (312AXA1A) Hatchback Petrol 07/2007 on FWD 8 69 51. FIAT 500 (312_) 1.2 LPG (312AXA1A) Hatchback Petrol/Liquified Petroleum Gas (LPG) 12/2010 on FWD 8 69 51.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[jackwhoo]

Plus I recommend parts in motion

 

[Big Black Stilo]

Thanks all, I’ll swap out the master cylinder.

As I’m not messing about with the quick fitting and leaving the existing pipes in situ I was looking at these -

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/febi-bilstein/16620014#master-cylinder-clutch

Anyone experienced with these?

PS- it’s the better half’s motor… she’s the foot on clutch kind! It’s now teaching her not too!

 

[John202020]

Not had a good experience with auto doc, good service from the company I linked and in the uk.
Yep just use existing pipes

 

[Ralf S.]

Febi-Bilstein are a good generic component producer.. the Bilstein part started life making shock absorbers... so they must have good QA processes.

Luk generally only make clutches and they're the OE manufacturer for the 500, so they also must know what they're doing.



Ralf S.

 

[jackwhoo]

Seriously....parts in motion do the exact same febi part and they are in UK, free delivery.
The place you linked is not free delivery so will take longer to get to you and cost more.

Sorry I apologise it is out of stock at parts in motion )-:

 

[jackwhoo]

MASTER CYLINDER CLUTCH FOR FIAT PANDA/CLASSIC/Hatchback/Van 500 1.2L 4cyl PANDA | eBay

FIAT PANDA / PANDA CLASSIC (169_) 1.2 (169AXF2A, 169AXF1A) 2010-03 2013-08 1242. FIAT PANDA / PANDA CLASSIC (169_) 1.4 Natural Power (169AXHIA) 2010-09 2013-08 1368. FIAT PANDA / PANDA CLASSIC (169_) 1.2 4x4 (169AXF2A, 169AXF1A) 2010-04 2013-08 1242.

www.ebay.co.uk

I hope that makes up for my error (-:

 

[jackwhoo]

I have used autodoc just make sure to tell them to note your account "no substitutions if brand you order is out of stock "
Plus not everything they list by registration number will fit.....ask them to check fitment by your vin before order.... that way if it doesn't fit they have to pay return costs.

 

[Big Black Stilo]

Ordered the LUK one off eBay linked above. It arrived this morning.
Of course she’s gone out in the car so I can’t fit it….