Technical Charging warning light.

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Technical Charging warning light.

Deise

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Duc 230. 1999. 2.8idtd. On hymer motorhome. Charging warning light on faintly for last 120km. A lot of climbing and fans working a lot
Battery voltage at 13.2v during 3 separate checks with multimeter.
Any thoughts?. Hoping a poor earth only.
Thanks in advance
 
14.3v engine running. Over 2 mins at about 1000 revs. Low fluctuation.
Nothing wrong there, unless voltage drops excessively under load.

The warning light is connected between an ignition switch output and the alternator field circuit, D+ connection.
On first switching the ignition, before starting the engine the light illuminates because there is no output from the alternator. The small current passing from the battery via the ignition switch providee an initial excitation current for the alternator field.
When the engine is started, the alternator is generating the alternator and battery voltages will normally be equal. No current flows through the bulb, and it goes out.
If when running there is a poor connection between the battery and the ignition switch, voltage may be lost on the way to the ignition switch, when cooling fans etc, which share part of the circuit are in use. This makes the voltage at the ignition switch lower than that at D+. In this case current will flow from D+, through the warning light towards the battery. If the voltage difference, and hence the current is sufficient the bulb will glow.

I am attaching a diagram "x230 Starting and Charging". Original is German, but I have added English translations.

Pay particular attention to the connecting point labelled "BB10" at the lhs of the diagram. On my Talbot Express which was the earlier 280 model this connection point was a 4 way large 9mm? blade connector. As I remember everything other than the main starter motor connection was routed through it. For safety, disconnect the battery negative before investigating. Also worth checking the main chassis earth connection in front of RHS engine mounting.

For 4 way blade connector see photo. It was to the right and behind the blue glow plug controller. Your x230 may be different.
 

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Many thanks for info. Fairly sure it's a D+ issue. Fridge in motorhome not switching over on 12v. Quick look earlier (39° here today) and it seems the splice on the D+ cable is with a **** scotchlok. Hopefully get a proper look tomo.
 
Many thanks for info. Fairly sure it's a D+ issue. Fridge in motorhome not switching over on 12v. Quick look earlier (39° here today) and it seems the splice on the D+ cable is with a **** scotchlok. Hopefully get a proper look tomo.
Now you tell us! I have nothing against insulation displacement connectors when used in dry locations, provided that conductor and connector sizes are correctly matched. If the tee connection is high resistance towards the alternator the warning light could find a path to earth via the split charge relay coil. However It seems more likely that the connection from the split charge relay (tap) would be the one to go h/r.
 
Plug with red/black wire broken in photo 1. Photo 2 shows yellow tipped corresponding socket . Cannot find red/black wire to warning light nearby. Possibly fallen behind engine or lost in loom.
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The single pole Tyco-Amp waterproof connector seems to have met with a nasty accident! It is irrepaiably mangled.
If it is indeed the connection to the warning light that is broken, then the wire must be grounding somewhere for the light to illuminate dimly as described in initial post.
 
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