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My ex-business partner has done it 3 times now taking 2 companies with him. One family run business supplied him with £30,000.00 worth of oak flooring for 4 barn conversions. It ruined their business, they lost their home because of him.

I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for people that take on contracts and a month later declare bankruptcy. Its far too easy to run and hide while others suffer for their greed and stupidity.
 
Why are you asking for advice on this subject in a forum like this? Bankruptcy is a very serious situation , the circumstances vary depending on the individual and the implications can last a lifetime........get some professional face to face advice ASAP.

Good advise but..... A typical bankruptcy where the individual has done nothing lasts 12 months. You can get a bank account within 9 months and credit starts the day after month 12 ends.

You only get a long bankruptcy order if you have done something wrong. This varies from 18 months to 10's of years!

My ex-business partner has done it 3 times now taking 2 companies with him. One family run business supplied him with £30,000.00 worth of oak flooring for 4 barn conversions. It ruined their business, they lost their home because of him.

Unfortunately this is the way of the world and the mess is left for people like our selves to mop it all up. We get repeat clients, we also get clients who have been subject to someone as mentioned above.

I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for people that take on contracts and a month later declare bankruptcy. Its far too easy to run and hide while others suffer for their greed and stupidity.

You could get a contract oneday and the next you could have a life changing moment where you have no choice but to go into an insolvency process!

You have no control over this unfortunately and you dont know people situations, only the perceived situation! so i would recomend that you think about what you say before you say it!

Not a thing I'd ever do to be honest. It's for life.

Alot of people say that, and alot of those go ahead and do it. Its not something you do just for the fun of it. Its a serious matter and something you do not take lightly. You will never understand unless you are in that situation, which it looks like you havent.
 
Alot of people say that, and alot of those go ahead and do it. Its not something you do just for the fun of it. Its a serious matter and something you do not take lightly. You will never understand unless you are in that situation, which it looks like you havent.
I know people who have done it at least once to get out of massive VAT and tax bills - end of; they didn't care that they had the money originally and spent it on other things... In those cases, it was irresponsible and selfish of them, but they knew damn well what they were doing.
 
True I haven't. But I'd beg borrow and steal to keep the creditors at bay and pay my own way tbh.

It's true what you say though there's plenty of circumstances that can land you in deep s***. A serious accident would be a good example. This is why 'income' insurance exists, in the event of redundancy, accident's etc etc.
 
I know people who have done it at least once to get out of massive VAT and tax bills - end of; they didn't care that they had the money originally and spent it on other things... In those cases, it was irresponsible and selfish of them, but they knew damn well what they were doing.

The 'company' I work for do that :rolleyes: :bang:. I just hope they pay my PAYE and NI!
 
I know people who have done it at least once to get out of massive VAT and tax bills - end of; they didn't care that they had the money originally and spent it on other things... In those cases, it was irresponsible and selfish of them, but they knew damn well what they were doing.

Im not saying it doesnt happen, it does. We have delt with a few of these and they get away with it unfortunately. As you probs know we deal with this by reporting it in our report we have to do!

True I haven't. But I'd beg borrow and steal to keep the creditors at bay and pay my own way tbh.

It's true what you say though there's plenty of circumstances that can land you in deep s***. A serious accident would be a good example. This is why 'income' insurance exists, in the event of redundancy, accident's etc etc.

Most people owe there family and friends money when they go, thats because they have borrowed and cant borrow anymore!

Someone close to me got taken for alot of money back in the early ninties. He got helped out by family to pay day to day stuff and has just recently finished paying of what he owed! This is an example of someone getting back on there feet! unfortunately not everyone gets back on there feet.
 
Good advise but..... A typical bankruptcy where the individual has done nothing lasts 12 months. You can get a bank account within 9 months and credit starts the day after month 12 ends.

Good advise but.... you can get a bank account straight away, co-op do one and another bank that i cant remember atm, so you can at least get wages paid in
 
You have no control over this unfortunately and you dont know people situations, only the perceived situation! so i would recomend that you think about what you say before you say it!

I've thought about it.

Peoples lives get left in tatters, their homes lost, thier buinesses lost, broken families, all the result of some irresponsible turd not paying what they owe. All this system does is make it easy for them, give them a pat on the back and hope they dont do it again, but they do, because it was so easy the first time!

I'm sorry but I STILL have no sympathy for people that take on contracts and a month later declare bankruptcy!

Its far too easy to run and hide while others suffer for their greed and stupidity!
 
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I'm sorry but I STILL have no sympathy for people that take on contracts and a month later declare bankruptcy!

maybe they had another contract for money coming in and needed a car to full fill their side of contract to get money in, but then the person who was paying them went bust leaving them with Dept they cant pay
 
I would be very surprised if they let you keep the car. The question on the linked site that commented on keeping a car didn't necessarily apply to the one the debt was over. For instance, I have a 6 year old Panda MJ that has no debt attached to it. Without it I can't get to work to earn the money to service the debt.

You however have a car that doesn't belong to you, so the first thing FIAT will do (I expect) is to take it back. They may well work out how much the car has devalued in the time you've had it. Unless it's a model with a hell of a waiting list then it will devalue, most cars tend to lose at least 25% of their value as soon as they are driven out of the showroom so you may have to give the car back plus they may want that money back which could be as much as £2,000.

If you have a CCJ issued against you it can preclude you from getting other finance for around 4 years. I once had one because I refused to pay a Solicitor's bill. I just toughed it out. He never got his money.

If you are declared bankrupt however, the consequences could follow you about for a long time. Think very carefully before you make the decision to go down that route.

If you are studying then when you graduate and go for a job, a bank or building society may not entertain you as they certainly don't allow their staff to build up debt while employed, so if you are trying to go into that environment aready with a bankruptcy round your neck then you are at a serious disadvantage. Likewise various aspects of the law profession will also take a dim view of someone who is financially suspect as it could be considered that they could be prone to blackmail.

If you haven't already done so, I'd speak to the finance department and try to give the car back with the least financial damage.
 
thanks for all the help guys, i have been informed my a union rep at work to contact them as we get free legal advice from a local solicitor as being part of the USDAW union, which i will do
 
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