Technical Axle weight Rating

[ronstox]

I found an interesting German Identity plate from Axel Gerstle (https://webshop.fiat500126.com/en/t...ype-plate-aluminum-_axle-load-and-weight/1913)
Amougst the normal data on the plate is "Permissible total weigh", "Axle load front", and "Axle load rear".
Does anybody have the values for these for a 500F?

 

[Bigvtwin996]

I found an interesting German Identity plate from Axel Gerstle (https://webshop.fiat500126.com/en/t...ype-plate-aluminum-_axle-load-and-weight/1913)
Amougst the normal data on the plate is "Permissible total weigh", "Axle load front", and "Axle load rear".
Does anybody have the values for these for a 500F?

I have one of those plates on a car from Germany...

I'll try to get to have a look and take a pic if possible...

 

[the hobbler]

Some time ago I was investigating the possibility of fitting 'wish-bone' front suspension to my '695'replica. To this end I contacted GAZ in Basildon (Essex) who make coil-overs for the 126. I needed to find the axle weights of a 500L in order for GAZ to calculate spring rates. My research came up with a total weight, inclusive of 4 people + 40kg of luggage as:--820kg. This splits into 360kg on the front axle and 460kg on the rear axle. I will concede that the 'luggage' figures (people + luggage) in the w/shop manual were calculated at 11st per person (Italians were smaller and lighter in those days!).

 

[ronstox]

Thanks Hobbler, that's good info.
I wonder where the germans stuck this thing. On the door post, I suppose.
I'd appreciate a pic when you can get around to it Bigvtwin

 

[ronstox]

A quick search with Google and I found this. It corroborates closely with Hobbler's numbers. Bravo!

 

[Bigvtwin996]

as promised....

It is from a N so also gives a good comparison as to how "Lardy" the more modern 500s became...

 

[ronstox]

Where is that thing mounted? In the wheel well?

 

[F123C]

In both of the plates shown above, if you add the front axle load to the rear axle load, the result exceeds the permissible total weight.
Why is this?

Al.

 

[F123C]

as promised....

It is from a N so also gives a good comparison as to how "Lardy" the more modern 500s became...

And an N can be made even lighter….


if you clean all the 'patina' off.

Al.

 

[Bigvtwin996]

And an N can be made even lighter….


if you clean all the 'patina' off.

Al.

Well Fiats do get lighter with age!!!

you can't beat Original Patina!!

The car was originally offwhite...
the outside is painted Dulux dark Orange..
but the under bonnet is a sort of green over white...
Not worked out if it is green paint or lichen!

It's mounted under the bonnet LHS just above the concrete

 

[F123C]

^^ Concrete?

Reminds me of a Fiat 600 I had. The sills seemed solid, a bit too solid when tapped.....

A previous owner had filled the rusted rear ends of the sills with concrete from the inside, then skimmed with filler and re-painted.

Al.

 

[Bigvtwin996]

^^ Concrete?

Reminds me of a Fiat 600 I had. The sills seemed solid, a bit too solid when tapped.....

A previous owner had filled the rusted rear ends of the sills with concrete from the inside, then skimmed with filler and re-painted.

Al.

well as you know you should try to keep the front<>rear balance as per the factory specs, so I presume as the car became lighter as the front panel dissolved...
the previous owner decided to keep the balance by filling the lower part of the front space with concrete...