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I often joke about being slysdexic,
But then a heck of a lot of people (me too) in the UK have dyslexia and it gets really annoying the time it takes to write stuff, its worse at work where I have do dot the T's and cross the i's.
I once went on a parents day, discussing it with my 7 yr olds teacher, she joked about how to spell it - I wasn't impressed. that's the level of support that schools like to give.
I dont know many adults that are autistic though.
But then a heck of a lot of people (me too) in the UK have dyslexia and it gets really annoying the time it takes to write stuff, its worse at work where I have do dot the T's and cross the i's.
I once went on a parents day, discussing it with my 7 yr olds teacher, she joked about how to spell it - I wasn't impressed. that's the level of support that schools like to give.
I dont know many adults that are autistic though.
that's a crap job why don't the person who writes the t's an i's do that them selves?
I thought I was back in the Classic Panda section for a moment, then....
Oy, who let you out of our section?
Get out!
GET OUT!
I think those of us on the higher-functioning (Asperger's) end of the continuum have learned to hide it pretty well... -- although scout may come along in a mo and tell you that it shines through like an Osram Nightbreaker Plus....
Those further along the spectrum, though, probably struggle in company -- which is why you probably won't get to know them, I'm afraid. [This is a bit of a generalization: but the largest groups of autistic people I know -- although they tend towards the savant/Rainman image... -- are in scientific institutions, e.g. university labs, GCHQ, IT companies: where their slightly different (and often highly methodical) approach is valued.]
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"Section" is very appropriate, in this context...!
Sometimes, when I'm on good behaviour, they let me play with the Mk2 Punto and Mk3 Panda peeps, too...!
Now get back to the Bravo section, where you belong...! :nerner:
I think those of us on the higher-functioning (Asperger's) end of the continuum have learned to hide it pretty well... -- although scout may come along in a mo and tell you that it shines through like an Osram Nightbreaker Plus....
Those further along the spectrum, though, probably struggle in company -- which is why you probably won't get to know them, I'm afraid. [This is a bit of a generalization: but the largest groups of autistic people I know -- although they tend towards the savant/Rainman image... -- are in scientific institutions, e.g. university labs, GCHQ, IT companies: where their slightly different (and often highly methodical) approach is valued.]
I've met a couple of people suffering from Aspergers, one was working as a cocktail bar in Ayia Napa, he was amazing at his job and I only knew about his condition because his mother told me, the bar owner had never seen anybody able to remember every single cocktail, all the time, I believe he is what you describe as high-functioning, I think he's back in the UK now and may be married, the other is the mid 30's daughter of a colleague who needs permanent 24/7 care, she (I'm told Aspergers is less common in women but they tend to have it more severely) is an incredible musician and has given concerts as far away as the USA and the Middle East but struggles very badly in social situations, my wife and I have taken her out for lunch a couple of times and apart from a couple of moments she was great, one of the saddest thing I've ever heard was when she said to me "I wish I was normal and could meet and marry somebody and live like you do"... I realised then that it must be hell to be locked inside your own mind and not be able to control it...So as far as I'm concerned anybody taking the p*** or making jokes about Autism deserves a f****** good kicking to the point that they come out of it with a disability of their own.
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I do like a positive response. It's just a pity this isn't one of them. There's nothing worse than a reformed smoker. I sometimes think they miss it and are seeking solace in finding others who've gone down the same route. A little bit like misery loving company. Well done for giving up. We've tried several times and each time it's almost come to blows, so it has to be a concerted effort. Otherwise it's similar to a drug addict coming home with his supplies of Methodone back to the crack house he lives in. Or the alcoholic returning from re-hab home to the his home in the local pub.
You're rationalising. you can no more do that with smoking than you can with booze or drugs. As for skeletal ghosts, maybe you notice them in their 70s because all the heavy drinkers have already shuffled off this mortal coil. One of our neighbours hasn't even got to 50 yet but he shambles around the area. His problems are all down to drink. But, as has already been hinted at, his smoking doesn't result in smashing up bus shelters or carrying out assaults in the streets. Nor is smoking a major cause of domestic violence, unlike alcohol.
That is an option being considered.Dave's always right of course but if you can't give up ecigs are a safer and cheaper option for us lowlife weak people.
And again Dave's right parents are ace holes.
High that horse Dave, be careful when you get off it
Personally I've never been burned by someone else's cigarette. Had a hole burnt in a jacket once, but that was quite bearable in comparison with a mate of mine who had his nose broken and 3 teeth knocked out; or another who ended up with brain damage after being hit over the head with a lump of concrete. Both after the assailants had been drinking.i remember getting burnt often back in the old days of family parties in smoke filled rooms, when everyone smoked
I simply tried to illustrate the difference between those who suffer illness as a result of heavy drinking, drug taking, or, yes, even smoking and those who are born with or develop a disability such as Muscular Dystrophy, MS or Autism.
but have you tried with professional help?
Actually there are plenty of elderly alcoholics, and I often wonder how their bodies continue to function, and often they are not violent, but rather depressed. Lots of elderly smokers too, with awful health, but a total inability, or wish, to do anything about it. When it reaches this stage, which can last a long time for all of them, and involve all the emergency services on a regular basis, I think of it as a slow suicide.
We are supposed to be non-judgemental, but going into the filthy pits that heavy smokers tend to live in, or the miserable hovels that some drunks inhabit, I have to be very careful to keep asking myself what happened in these people's lives to make them end up in this way. Don't forget, we live in world where the mantra is the word "choice". They have 'chosen' to drink and/or smoke, so the resultant misery is consequently their decision, and by extension, their fault. And then of course we are supposed also to see alcoholism as a disease .... Mmmm?
Autism isn't in any way a choice, no matter how you define it, and lots of people are somewhere on the spectrum.
But I don't think the perpetual stress that many of us live with is any help to anyone, autistic or otherwise.
Which is pretty much where my comment about drink, drugs and fags came into the equation.
In answer to dave's question, yes I have tried with professional help through my GP surgery. I tried patches and did ok for a couple of weeks before caving in. Having said that, the Practice Nurse did say that many, if not most people need two or three attempts at giving up before succeeding so I will be having another go. One of my neighbours managed it at 62 and one of the ways he did that was to not go to places where he usually went to smoke, and the ban on smoking indoors certainly helped such as pubs and our local club, not to mention at work.
Mind you, he is a welder so there's quite a lot of "smoke" at work anyway, he just can't spark up a tab. That would all help me as well but with one exception. He lives with a non-smoker.
I can't really not go home.
In answer to dave's question, yes I have tried with professional help through my GP surgery. I tried patches and did ok for a couple of weeks before caving in. Having said that, the Practice Nurse did say that many, if not most people need two or three attempts at giving up before succeeding so I will be having another go. One of my neighbours managed it at 62 and one of the ways he did that was to not go to places where he usually went to smoke, and the ban on smoking indoors certainly helped such as pubs and our local club, not to mention at work.
Mind you, he is a welder so there's quite a lot of "smoke" at work anyway, he just can't spark up a tab. That would all help me as well but with one exception. He lives with a non-smoker.
I can't really not go home.
was champix out last time you went? they are a strange tablet after taking them for a week or 2 you put a smoke in your mouth light it then think i don't want this and put it out, wont work for everyone but my adviser said its most successful tool she has.
when i did welding at night school i'd chuck up on the way home because of all the fumes from 30 of us all welding :yuck:
when i did welding at night school i'd chuck up on the way home because of all the fumes from 30 of us all welding :yuck:
I found thinking I had throat cancer worked for me, I had all the symptoms and my uncle who had never smoked had it a few years ago. Electronic cigs are much nicer once you adjust to them anyway.
but smoking e cigs is like driving an Audi
I quit smoking in 2008 and I work in health care and regularly have to advise people on there smoking habits (I work in surgery so mostly pre or post surgery where smoking can have some big issues on patients) smoking is a bitch to give up and I tried many times patches, inhalator, gum (possibly the most disgusting stuff in the world) I eventually managed it with Varenicline (champix) it should be noted though that Varenicline as a drug is pretty horrible it has lots of side effects including causing serious stomach upset and can trigger/cause psychological problems it's not something that everyone can or wants to take.
As for autism which this thread was about, I have heard it used as an insult, I've also heard it used to try and high light to someone that they maybe autistic but it's often taken as an insult.
I previously worked in engineering where I met lots of people you could describe as having Aspergers extremely intelligent brilliant people but no idea how to deal with people. Quite often I have to admit I don't get on with people with Aspergers mainly due to my very jokey, sarcastic nature which is often missed by people with the condition who then take me far to literally.
As for autism which this thread was about, I have heard it used as an insult, I've also heard it used to try and high light to someone that they maybe autistic but it's often taken as an insult.
I previously worked in engineering where I met lots of people you could describe as having Aspergers extremely intelligent brilliant people but no idea how to deal with people. Quite often I have to admit I don't get on with people with Aspergers mainly due to my very jokey, sarcastic nature which is often missed by people with the condition who then take me far to literally.
Oh I'd better get me an Audi
andy people are difficult to deal with at the best of times through misunderstanding our humour not just with Autism, ask the wife
I've tried patches with the help of the Practice Nurse at my GP surgery and cold turkey. The patches were more effective, far more so than my willpower. I'm going to have another go which hopefully will be more successful. I think that what's important is that I've actually started to think about giving up. I used to get quite anxious if I was running out of fags late at night in case I actually ran out before I got up. Now I don't. I've also stopped taking the fags with me when I take the dog for a walk.
I remember the nurse saying that it's easier to pack in if you really want to so I think I actually want to now.
Getting back to Autism again, there's a young lad who has Cerebral Palsy who goes in our club with his dad. He's only 15 but although club rules bar under 18s from the club after 8pm we passed an amendment allowing him entry as long as he was with his father. He's a lovely lad and both his parents were members but his mum had difficulty dealing with his condition and blaming herself for it (don't know why) and committed suicide. As his dad was his sole carer we realised that he'd never have any kind of social life so the amendment was made and both are made welcome by all the members. I'd no more take the p**s out of someone with Autism than I would him
The price of cigarettes now means that buying an Audi might now be the cheaper option. Hang on a minute, ask who's wife?Oh I'd better get me an Audi
andy people are difficult to deal with at the best of times through misunderstanding our humour not just with Autism, ask the wife