Off Topic Anyone recognise this?

[Fiat Ducato Motorhome]

Evening everyone

I need to replace 3 wire terminals from this type of connector. It's from a 1997 1.9td Fiat Ducato. And is for the hazard warning light switch which plugs into this connector behind the central console.

Does anyone recognise this type of connector and know what it's called so I can replace and repair.

Many thanks in advance

 

[portland_bill]

Make a cup of tea, settle in, and have a browse of this site. https://www.te.com/usa-en/products/connectors/automotive-connectors.html
It is likely to be in there somewhere, but there are lots to sift through.
Once found, make a careful note of its name, exactly, and then pop that into Google to find potential sources. You may only need the terminals, not the whole connector, which should be easier, as the same terminals will be used in multiple connectors.
Your connector may have the AMP name on, or an alternative, but they will be interchangeable, as vehicle manufacturers insist on this to allow dual sourcing to ensure continuity of supply, and competitive costs.

 

[varesecrazy]

Evening everyone

I need to replace 3 wire terminals from this type of connector. It's from a 1997 1.9td Fiat Ducato. And is for the hazard warning light switch which plugs into this connector behind the central console.

Does anyone recognise this type of connector and know what it's called so I can replace and repair.

Many thanks in advance

Hi

A UK company from Hull called Autoclick

Stock a lot of that kit

Their website might be easier to navigate

As items are listed by number of connectors.. then search Brands supplying those fittings

TE, Siemens Bosch and Marelli all feature

 

[Communicator]

A search on Ebay reveals that a new switch is available for under £35. More importantly the box is marked with "Ricambi" as the maker, but do they also make the connector?

Try examining the wiring face of the connector closely, perhaps with the aid of a magnifying glass. I would expect it to be marked with terminal numbers and the maker's name.

An alternative approach would be to purchase a salvaged connector from a vehicle breaker.

Please post your findings back here.

 

[portland_bill]

A search on Ebay reveals that a new switch is available for under £35. More importantly the box is marked with "Ricambi" as the maker, but do they also make the connector?

Try examining the wiring face of the connector closely, perhaps with the aid of a magnifying glass. I would expect it to be marked with terminal numbers and the maker's name.

An alternative approach would be to purchase a salvaged connector from a vehicle breaker.

Please post your findings back here.

I think 'Ricambi' means 'spare part'.

 

[portland_bill]

Hi

A UK company from Hull called Autoclick

Stock a lot of that kit

Their website might be easier to navigate

As items are listed by number of connectors.. then search Brands supplying those fittings

TE, Siemens Bosch and Marelli all feature

Auto-Click UK - Automotive Connectors

Automotive connector online store. The UK's largest specialist stockist of car and engine connectors

www.auto-click.co.uk

 

[Fiat Ducato Motorhome]

Thanks everyone for the replies. I've checked out all recommendations but can not find this particular connector. It's specifically designed to receive the hazard warning light switch. Will have to find another way.

 

[the green vanper]

Looks to me as a special plastic connector for this typical application. Are they any marks on it? Have you tried a local fiat dealer?

Do you need to replace the wire terminals only? or also the plastic connector itself? Normally there are 'special tools' to slide on the side of the metal terminal to pull it to the back (to the wire side), there's no need to break the plastic connector to take out the terminals

 

[portland_bill]

The first pic, looking into the terminals, shows AMP on the face. AMP is a brand of TE Connectivity, so it should be on thier website somewhere, but with so many products, may take some time to find.

 

[the green vanper]

The first pic, looking into the terminals, shows AMP on the face. AMP is a brand of TE Connectivity, so it should be on thier website somewhere, but with so many products, may take some time to find.

It is possible that it is not available to the public, it could have been a special order.

I don't see any damage to the plastic connector on the 2 pictures. If so, the easiest would be to take out the metal terminals gently and replace them without replacing the plastic connector We need to have a confirmation of the autor...

 

[varesecrazy]

Thanks everyone for the replies. I've checked out all recommendations but can not find this particular connector. It's specifically designed to receive the hazard warning light switch. Will have to find another way.

Maybe send a couple of images in an email..??

Possibly old enough they have pulled the images from their webshop



What exactly do you want to achieve??
The terminals just appear 'slack' to me in your 1 image

 

[portland_bill]

The TE site is not a shop, unless you are a vehicle manufacturer, or parts wholesaler, but is a good reference to identify what you need, to then search elsewhere.

If that part is no longer listed, the terminals will be standard, so an email may elicit a reply. However, for such a large company, this may be a little trivial. Extracting a terminal, then browsing for it could gain a good result. Most of their items have data sheets available that will give detailed dimensions.

A long and tedious task for the vehicle owner.

 

[Fiat Ducato Motorhome]

Hi everyone

Thank you for all your comments. Firstly I do not wish to replace the complete connector, I need to replace and rewire 3 terminals. But thought if I knew the name of the connector it might be easier to locate the type of terminals that i need. I too see AMP written on the terminals and I've searched through the TE website I've even emailed them and sent photos. Just waiting to hear back.

I also searched through a site called automotiveconnectors.com and found terminals which looked similar:

TE Connectivity STD Timer Female Contact 5.8mm 1-2.5mm² 17-13awg

Stockists of a wide range of automotive electrical and wiring products. Connectors, terminals. Genuine Bosch connectors. Bosch distributor.

www.automotiveconnectors.com

I placed a minimum order value and along with p&p spent £17.58 however when they arrived turned out they won't fit in the connector. Slightly too thick.

After more searching I thing the ones I need are obsolete and no longer manufactured.
The hazard warning light switch plugs into this connector.

I'm now all out of ideas, hopefully TE will get back to be with some good news.

I just thought I'd update you all on my progress.

 

[the green vanper]

Check this link:

Konektory

Tu kupisz konektory samochodowe oraz wiele innych połączeń , wtyczek złączek, dla przemysłu, maszyn i urządzeń. Hurtownia z podzespołami elektrycznymi

e-connectors.pl

The logo seems similar to the one you posted They have terminals from TE, Lear and others that look similar to yours. In most of cases they have drawings with dimensions (in milimeters!), it would be easier to find the one you need. They also have part numbers from the producers, that could allow you to find it easier in the UK.

I could help you with the order if needed Just PM then

 

[portland_bill]

Hi everyone

Thank you for all your comments. Firstly I do not wish to replace the complete connector, I need to replace and rewire 3 terminals. But thought if I knew the name of the connector it might be easier to locate the type of terminals that i need. I too see AMP written on the terminals and I've searched through the TE website I've even emailed them and sent photos. Just waiting to hear back.

I also searched through a site called automotiveconnectors.com and found terminals which looked similar:

TE Connectivity STD Timer Female Contact 5.8mm 1-2.5mm² 17-13awg

Stockists of a wide range of automotive electrical and wiring products. Connectors, terminals. Genuine Bosch connectors. Bosch distributor.

www.automotiveconnectors.com

I placed a minimum order value and along with p&p spent £17.58 however when they arrived turned out they won't fit in the connector. Slightly too thick.

After more searching I thing the ones I need are obsolete and no longer manufactured.
The hazard warning light switch plugs into this connector.

I'm now all out of ideas, hopefully TE will get back to be with some good news.

I just thought I'd update you all on my progress.

If you can be certain to connect all the wires to their correct terminals, you could just extract all the terminals from the connector, use the new thicker ones where necessary, and place directly onto the pins, without the connector. Ensure all are insulated, and likely, no-one will ever see them again.

 

[Communicator]

A method that I have used on a few occasions when I was unable to source replacement connector inserts is given below, but care and patience are required.
1. Remove insert.
2. Cut off old wire.
3. Hold insert over conductor crimp with small pliers.
4. Carefully prise open the insulation crimp with an engineering scriber or similar sharp point, and straighten using needle nose pliers.
5. "Worry" off old conductor strands from end of crimp.
6. Neatly solder new conductor over old conductor crimp. (Pre-tinning the crimp and new wire end with solder may help.)
7. Re-crimp over insulation of new wire.

 

[the green vanper]

If you can be certain to connect all the wires to their correct terminals, you could just extract all the terminals from the connector, use the new thicker ones where necessary, and place directly onto the pins, without the connector. Ensure all are insulated, and likely, no-one will ever see them again.

Precise marking of the wires would be required in such case just to be able to reconnect properly in the future.