am been ripped off after MOT damage

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am been ripped off after MOT damage

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Hi all I am looking for some advice. I have a low mileage 5 years old punto 1.4 lounge we use to drive about town and the odd run out. We do less 5000 miles a year and the car done less 30,000 miles
Last year it past the MOT fine no problems at all, a day later it started make a banging sound when turning the steering wheel. It tuned out that the drives side front spring had broken. I had not hit a pot hole or anything. I sucked it up and put it down the bad luck.
BUT this year same problem car pass MOT with no problems then a two later the old banging sound is back. It is not the exhausts as I does the sound when I am not moving.
So what do you lot think. It smells fishy to me. As how can car pass an MOT then have the same issue to years running!
 
Hi well just running about town is not a lot of work, I drove two works vans round the lock without any big issues.

As for the MOT clean as a whistle both times.

as i said the time is just off.
 
There's nothing on the MOT to aggravate a weak spring, so coincidence, both times.

Whilst mileage is low, spring failures are quite common these days, partly due to the poor state of the roads.

If not a broken spring, check the drop links to the anti-roll bar. They make a lot of noise when worn, but resist showing any play when inspected.
 
As Charlie says springs do fail and these days it's quite a common event. Edinburgh still has quite a number of, pretty rough, cobbled streets and thousands of speed bumps. It's not at all unusual to see, from time to time, a piece of broken coil spring lying in the gutter! A few years ago, before he suffered ill health and closed down his business, I was talking to my friend (who owned an independent motor factors). I had recently suffered broken springs on two of the family vehicles and I was complimenting him on how quickly he had been able to supply the new ones. "Just come through and look at this" said he, leading me through into the warehousing area. There was shelf after shelf after shelf of road springs! "A few years back I would have only stocked a few of the worst offenders on the shelf. Now the demand is so great I have to carry all these"! His opinion was that speed bumps were a big part of the problem as demand increased sharply after their introduction. I tend to agree with him as I can't really think of any other road feature which causes such a large deflection of the springs and I think it's this large degree of deflection (and to some degree the shock of the potholes too) which breaks them. I myself, try always to slow to such a degree that minimal deflection of the suspension takes place whilst traversing one of these evil features. I think I used to cause annoyance to some by going so slowly but now there are so many 20mph zones in Edinburgh that this seems to not be a problem any more! (Whilst I was initially very frustrated by these 20 zones I find I quite like them now but do wonder what it's doing to my gearbox driving around in 2nd and 3rd gear all the time.)

The comments made by Eklipze and P.B. are also very relevant. Changing springs in "axle" pairs is very good practice and, as Eklipze says, If only the one was renewed last year it's a pretty good bet the other one has now gone. P.B's point about the anti roll bar drop links is also a good one. Like ball joints and track rod ends they can make a devil of a racket. If you jack up just one side of the vehicle although steering ball joint and track rod end free play can be easily felt you won't detect any in a drop link as the anti roll bar will be putting it under tension/compression. You need both front wheels off the ground and even then there is sometimes enough disparity between resting position side to side to still tension the links and so mask the play. A couple of months ago I spent a couple of days, on and off, trying to find a "clunk" in my daughter in law's Honda Jazz. Eventually (due to the noise it was making. I am a retired mechanic so have heard many noises) I convinced myself it was the O/S/F anti roll bar drop link although with it still bolted to the vehicle I could detect no play! As soon as I had it off the vehicle it was obvious that the lower joint had failed. It's rubber was still intact but there was very very little grease in it and you could merrily rattle the ball end around!
 
Hi all thank you for the help.
Last year only the one spring was changed, I did question that as I would of changed both as it is part of the suspension but was told now a day you do not have to.
The roads are okay around us and I know we not hit any holds in the road or the like.
The car only done 1514 miles this year!
The sound is coming from the same side as before I think but we not know till it is fixed.
I hope it not the same spring as they should last longer than 1514 miles I say if it is then it a bad part.
On the down side just found out the garage is no long run by the same manager. He did a runner by the sound of it. The old owner / manager I know for years is back in charge.
It is booked in for them to have a look at it tomorrow.

Ps do they not test the suspension in the MOT?
 
Ps do they not test the suspension in the MOT?

Yes suspension checks are an integral part of the MOT but it's pretty much visual inspection for leaking dampers, broken springs, rubber bushing condition, obvious physical damage, wear in ball joints and steering components, etc. It has been suggested in the past that a calibrated shock absorber tester, which tests actual shock absorber performance, should be introduced but so far this has not been taken up. The test is a reflection of vehicle condition at the time of testing so, in your case, if the spring is not broken at the time of testing, it will not be noted.

Testers, like all of us, are human and can miss things like any of us might. They also, occasionally, make very harsh judgements and will fail something which perhaps you would yourself have let go another year or so! However most I have found to be very fair and I have no argument with. I would avoid, like the plague, any of the "Faster Fitting" type brigade as previous experiences have not been good! If you find somewhere you are "happy" with I'd just stick with them.
 
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