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Ghengis Khan
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Hello All Apologies in advance for the long post but i've tried to give all the relevant info so i can get some answers.
I mentioned the above names as i know they've messed about with different wheels and bolts before but all others please help me as well to sort this one. The cars a 97 Brava 1.4s
Had these wheels on the car. Marea 15" Alloys. My original steel wheel bolts were too short obviously and i used the genuine fiat alloy wheel bolts and locking bolts that came with them and they fitted fine.
As far as i knew the marea wheels run a slightly different offset to the brava and i noticed that they sat in more on mines than the steelies.
Now i've gone and got these 15" Alloys that came on the Brava Formula as standard, i assume they were an option on others as well. They came as wheels only wih no bolts. I assumed the marea alloy bolts would be fine.
Now bearing in mind i've never changed a wheel on my brava before, despite having it for 6 years, i'm new to bolts as opposed to nuts, not that it should make any difference. When changing i noticed the front wheels had one locating pin each and the marea alloy had a corresponding hole on the alloy to accept it. The brava alloys did not and i was going to remove them but they have a massive recess between each bolt hole which would allow the locating pin to dissapear into comfortabely so i
did not bother to remove them, when holding the wheels up against the hub the locating pin did not seem to be getting in the way and i could hold the wheel up flush. anyway when bolting the wheel on it seemed to take quite a while to get the bolts to be fully tight to be honest but i got there eventually. The back wheels had two locating pins each which i again did not remove. The back wheels seem to go on so much quicker and easily though for some reason. While tightening the last back wheel i heard what sounded like a spring noise as if something was being forced in the drum brake, no noise on the last turn. While tightening the last front wheel and spinning it to make it easier i felt some resistance to the wheel spinning at one point, after tightneing some more and trying again i t seemed to have decreased, i didn't try this with the first front wheel so dont know if both were like that and i had the handbrake on so dont know about the backs either.
Once done i was a bit worried about this so only edged the car forward slightly and allowed it to freewheel slightly, the resistance was still there and enough to almost slow the car to a halt as well as creaking from the back drums simialr to the sound heard when initially tightening them.
Given these are original fiat alloys spoecifically for the brava i can only assume that maybe the marea alloy bolts are possibly too long and catching something when fully tightenened? If i need original fiat alloy bolts where's best to get them from or is it just fiat who will do them? If they're too long and i've overtightened will this have damamged anything or will swapping them back tomorrow be quick enough to avoid any long term problems? If Marea alloy bolts are the same length as Brava alloy bolts then what is the problem you reckon?
All advice appreciated and many thanks in advance.
Ghengis Khan, http://www.babarmalik.com
I mentioned the above names as i know they've messed about with different wheels and bolts before but all others please help me as well to sort this one. The cars a 97 Brava 1.4s
Had these wheels on the car. Marea 15" Alloys. My original steel wheel bolts were too short obviously and i used the genuine fiat alloy wheel bolts and locking bolts that came with them and they fitted fine.
As far as i knew the marea wheels run a slightly different offset to the brava and i noticed that they sat in more on mines than the steelies.
Now i've gone and got these 15" Alloys that came on the Brava Formula as standard, i assume they were an option on others as well. They came as wheels only wih no bolts. I assumed the marea alloy bolts would be fine.
Now bearing in mind i've never changed a wheel on my brava before, despite having it for 6 years, i'm new to bolts as opposed to nuts, not that it should make any difference. When changing i noticed the front wheels had one locating pin each and the marea alloy had a corresponding hole on the alloy to accept it. The brava alloys did not and i was going to remove them but they have a massive recess between each bolt hole which would allow the locating pin to dissapear into comfortabely so i
did not bother to remove them, when holding the wheels up against the hub the locating pin did not seem to be getting in the way and i could hold the wheel up flush. anyway when bolting the wheel on it seemed to take quite a while to get the bolts to be fully tight to be honest but i got there eventually. The back wheels had two locating pins each which i again did not remove. The back wheels seem to go on so much quicker and easily though for some reason. While tightening the last back wheel i heard what sounded like a spring noise as if something was being forced in the drum brake, no noise on the last turn. While tightening the last front wheel and spinning it to make it easier i felt some resistance to the wheel spinning at one point, after tightneing some more and trying again i t seemed to have decreased, i didn't try this with the first front wheel so dont know if both were like that and i had the handbrake on so dont know about the backs either.
Once done i was a bit worried about this so only edged the car forward slightly and allowed it to freewheel slightly, the resistance was still there and enough to almost slow the car to a halt as well as creaking from the back drums simialr to the sound heard when initially tightening them.
Given these are original fiat alloys spoecifically for the brava i can only assume that maybe the marea alloy bolts are possibly too long and catching something when fully tightenened? If i need original fiat alloy bolts where's best to get them from or is it just fiat who will do them? If they're too long and i've overtightened will this have damamged anything or will swapping them back tomorrow be quick enough to avoid any long term problems? If Marea alloy bolts are the same length as Brava alloy bolts then what is the problem you reckon?
All advice appreciated and many thanks in advance.
Ghengis Khan, http://www.babarmalik.com
