Technical Airbag ECU

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Could someone advise as to the location please. 2004 1108cc Active if its spec specific.

Would the airbag ecu being disconnected cause a lack of airbag warning light to illuminate when car is first started.

We get the 'pass airbag off' light flash for a few seconds, but thats the only one from the airbag system, where as in my Stilo I get the above light, and a general airbag warning light for about 4 sec.

What do other members get?

Jon.

 

[PNL]

Sorry for the late reply Jon..

http://www.spangerum.com:7080/navi?...=3&WINDOW_ID=1&SGRP_COD=8&SGS_COD=0&DRW_NUM=1

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Thanks for that Phil. So its around the steering column then under the steering shroud

Does anyone know if disconnecting it will turn the airbag light off then? I'm not 100% sure of how its incorperated with the CAN system.

 

[T14086]

Does anyone know if disconnecting it will turn the airbag light off then?

no

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

no

Any idea what's likly to have caused this then?

I know that the dash and clocks in Panda's are LED unit's, so it's not as though the bulb has been removed, and the unit I know hasn't been tampered with, so unless its a fault with the display which isn't impossible, but I doubt, I don't know what the cause could be.

 

[T14086]

Take it to dealer as easy to locate fault with the right equipment, personally I dont recommend messing with airbags especially the ECU.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Hmmm, could do.

But I'd rather not spend £60 for diagnostics. Will leave it be then.

 

[T14086]

your choice

 

[D4nny8oy]

Thanks for that Phil. So its around the steering column then under the steering shroud

LOL.

First rule of using Eper- Never believe a part is located where Eper says it is.

Airbag ECU connectors don't fall out easily. If it's not communicating, it could be a simple blown fuse, or an ECU failure (though I'd expect neither airbag lamp to work if either were the case).

A simple Examiner check would test communication, plus perform active diagnosis on the warning lamp to ensure the cluster is ok.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Airbag ECU connectors don't fall out easily.

Ah, but this be a stolen and recovered Panda subjected to quite a beating when pinched

Steering shroud was ripped off from what I can tell (mounts snapped etc) so wouldn't surprise me, but what more can I expect for £1500 for a car that at the time was under 5 years old, only 39k on the clock and with a CD player (active spec don't forget)

 

[PNL]

LOL.

First rule of using Eper- Never believe a part is located where Eper says it is.

Sorry state of affairs when you cant rely on tech data given by eper..and I have to say on the elearn disk this is fact as well..

Any road this is the elearn pic given on the disk and if you can see where its located from this view Jon than your a better man than me gunga din..:bang:

 

[T14086]

Phil techs dont use those discs, they have a new online system which is 1000 times better

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

So as a tech with access to a new online system are you able to advise on location

 

[T14086]

You need to pay for access the same as anyone else, certainly isn't my place to put up copyrighted material on the internet.

(p.s. I'm a baker...I bake things)

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

I wasn't asking for copy righted material, just a hint of the general location, but its ok, not to worry.

I'm not to fussed. Always seems the be the same when it comes to airbag systems.

"you need to be trained"
"shouldn't touch it"

etc etc.




:bang:

 

[NumanR]

Airbags are dangerous things, thats why we tell people not to muck about with them and take them to a dealer.

As for the picture, it is quite clear where it is, as 99% of airbag ecus are placed in the same position. Also as a clue to find where electrcal items are, check the component location section in the electrical section of the manual.

The view in the pic is from the drivers side, facing under the centre cowling, you can see the heater controls and the radio pod, I aint telling you where it is but hopefully you can figure it out for yourself. Dont kill yourself testing things though, if you do, dont come running to me

 

[PNL]

Airbags are dangerous things, thats why we tell people not to muck about with them and take them to a dealer.

As for the picture, it is quite clear where it is, as 99% of airbag ecus are placed in the same position. Also as a clue to find where electrcal items are, check the component location section in the electrical section of the manual.

The view in the pic is from the drivers side, facing under the centre cowling, you can see the heater controls and the radio pod, I aint telling you where it is but hopefully you can figure it out for yourself. Dont kill yourself testing things though, if you do, dont come running to me

I think the penny just dropped.. centre console rings a bell :idea: ..my son in law spilt a cup of cofee all over his mitsi today and triggered a srs fault light..god damn it another centre console thats got to come out on wednesday..:bang:

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Airbags are dangerous things, thats why we tell people not to muck about with them and take them to a dealer.

As for the picture, it is quite clear where it is, as 99% of airbag ecus are placed in the same position. Also as a clue to find where electrcal items are, check the component location section in the electrical section of the manual.

The view in the pic is from the drivers side, facing under the centre cowling, you can see the heater controls and the radio pod, I aint telling you where it is but hopefully you can figure it out for yourself. Dont kill yourself testing things though, if you do, dont come running to me

I'm fully aware of how dangerous they are, and thank you for the concern, but I don't plan on mucking about with it so to speak. I only want to check that everything is connected properly

Thanks for the hint.

Jon.

 

[Andy Monty]

I'm fully aware of how dangerous they are, and thank you for the concern, but I don't plan on mucking about with it so to speak. I only want to check that everything is connected properly

Thanks for the hint.

Jon.

let us know when your going to have a look jon and i'll "watch"




:devil:

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Thanks Andy

Well the worst that could happen is this......