General About Tempra alloy wheels

[fiat1100d]

Hi!

My Tempra currently runs on 165/65 tyres fitted on the stock, black painted steel wheels, which size is 14" x 5.5

I would like to fit the original alloy wheels for improving the look (I read elsewhere that they are not much lighter than steel ones). They should still be 14" in diameter, but what about their width? What I would like to know is if I can continue using 165/65 on them or I have to switch to 185/60 tyres, that I prefer not to do because I suppose the fuel consumption would increase... I ask because I see alloy wheels mainly on the SLX version which has 1800cc and uses the larger tyres.

Also, is installing alloy wheels a straightforward replacement operation or anything special is required? For example, are the original bolts fine or particular ones must be used?

Thank you!

 

[Ziomike]

My Tempra currently runs on 165/65 tyres fitted on the stock, black painted steel wheels, which size is 14" x 5.5. I would like to fit the original alloy wheels for improving the look. They should still be 14" in diameter, but what about their width? What I would like to know is if I can continue using 165/65 on them or I have to switch to 185/60 tyres. I ask because I see alloy wheels mainly on the SLX version which has 1800cc and uses the larger tyres.

Also, is installing alloy wheels a straightforward replacement operation or anything special is required? For example, are the original bolts fine or particular ones must be used?
Thank you!

Daniele, buon giorno.
Quale zona dell'Italia ?

I have just transferred 4 tyres 175/65 R14 from a Tempra 1.6IE on steel wheels over to alloys on a Tempra TDs without any problems.

I was told by the tyre fitters that the difference between the 175 and 185 was 1cm in width which was acceptable so they would fit the alloy rims ok, however when they wear out I will go back to the proper 185 sizing. My only reason for doing this was that I had to scrap the 1.6IE but the tyres were brand new. The TDs tyres were needing replacement, so I swapped them, did not see the point of buying another set of tyres.

Your 165/65 tyres may be a bit to narrow for the 185/65 alloy rims, that's a 2cm difference, they would fit, but may not be safe.

You can put alloys on the car, but you will need to get a set of wheel bolts as the alloys require longer bolts than that fitted to the steel wheels. I have a set if you want them for a small sum (from another scrapped TDs)

 

[multipete]

dont forget to keep 4 old bolts [shorter ones] to use with your spare wheel as the longer bolts may catch

 

[fiat1100d]

Quale zona dell'Italia ?

Hi! I live in Modena, in northern Italy, the city of Maserati cars and quite near to Maranello, where Ferrari cars born

Your 165/65 tyres may be a bit to narrow for the 185/65 alloy rims, that's a 2cm difference, they would fit, but may not be safe.

Do you know how wide the alloy wheels are? If they are 5.5" then 165/65 tyres should be safe too, since it is the width of the steel rims I have.
Also, please notice that the wider tyres should be 185/60, not 185/65.

You can put alloys on the car, but you will need to get a set of wheel bolts as the alloys require longer bolts than that fitted to the steel wheels. I have a set if you want them for a small sum (from another scrapped TDs)

Thanks for your offer! Will consider it, after I find the alloys, if without proper bolts, if you still have them available.

dont forget to keep 4 old bolts [shorter ones] to use with your spare wheel as the longer bolts may catch

Was thinking about this too, because on the manual I have there is written that the spare wheel on cars equipped with alloys should be mounted by using some sort of spacer, as far as I understood, but I don't use the small spare wheel anymore, I have a full size wheel and so original bolts will be needed.

 

[Ziomike]

Hi! I live in Modena, in northern Italy, the city of Maserati cars and quite near to Maranello, where Ferrari cars born

Nice area, my wife's family is from Bologna, her father was from Modena..

Do you know how wide the alloy wheels are? If they are 5.5" then 165/65 tyres should be safe too, since it is the width of the steel rims I have. Also, please notice that the wider tyres should be 185/60, not 185/65.

At work at the moment so don't have the other TDs to hand to see what size tyre is fitted, will check over the weekend.

Thanks for your offer! Will consider it, after I find the alloys, if without proper bolts, if you still have them available.

Thats ok, can post them out if needed.

Was thinking about this too, because on the manual I have there is written that the spare wheel on cars equipped with alloys should be mounted by using some sort of spacer, as far as I understood, but I don't use the small spare wheel anymore, I have a full size wheel and so original bolts will be needed.

On both our TDs's the spare is the skinny steel type and the spacer appears to be part of the wheel, they fit directly on the car without any further parts using the original bolts, but yes if you keep a steel wheel as a spare don't forget to keep the bolts !

I had an idea that the Tempras TDs's had the skinny spare wheel as a fitment for the British Market. It's fitted in the left side of the estate compartment behind a cover along with the jack and some tools. The spare wheel space under the floor has a comparmentalised "insert" fitted, which is a bit strange as this space looks big enough to take a full size spare. My old 1.6Ie had a full size steel spare under the floor.

A question you might know, is the Tempra derived from the Marengo ? or is the Marengo a commercial version of the Tempra ?

 

[fiat1100d]

Nice area, my wife's family is from Bologna, her father was from Modena..

My parents are from Calabria region, in southern Italy, much nicer place for the holidays, with wonderful sea

On both our TDs's the spare is the skinny steel type and the spacer appears to be part of the wheel, they fit directly on the car without any further parts using the original bolts, but yes if you keep a steel wheel as a spare don't forget to keep the bolts !

Will do! I prefer a full-size steel wheel as spare because I don't like the "skinny" one, first because it is so ugly when fitted, and then you have to drive very slowly... At least with a full-size wheel you don't have to go to a tyre changer in an hurry!

I had an idea that the Tempras TDs's had the skinny spare wheel as a fitment for the British Market. It's fitted in the left side of the estate compartment behind a cover along with the jack and some tools. The spare wheel space under the floor has a comparmentalised "insert" fitted, which is a bit strange as this space looks big enough to take a full size spare. My old 1.6Ie had a full size steel spare under the floor.

Don't know. A friend of mine had a SLX estate (1.8ie) and I think he told me it had the skinny wheel. My SX berlina was equipped with the skinny wheel in the space under the floor. Now in that compartment there is the tank for the gas system and the spare wheel lies into the luggage compartment.

A question you might know, is the Tempra derived from the Marengo ? or is the Marengo a commercial version of the Tempra ?

The second you said is the right one: as they did with the Panda, with the creation of the commercial Panda Van, they made the Marengo which is the commercial version of Tempra SW. It should only have two seats, as far as I know, and so at the back there is plenty of cargo space. I also read that the very first Marengos where modified FIAT Regata Weekend (the estate version of Regata).