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This morning my 500 ticked over to 80,000 on the odometer.

I know some people have less than ideal experiences with theirs, but mine has been as good as you could expect from a car that cost £8,720 back when it was picked up from the forecourt back on July the 16th 2009.

In terms of things that have gone wrong.
The rear dampers and front strut top mounts were replaced under warranty in April 2012.
The leather on the drivers seat base got saggy and wrinkly and was replaced under warranty also.
It's used one set of Vredestein Snowtrac 3 tyres and still has two of the original tyres it came with, the other two got murdered by my Fiat garage who put a ridiculous amount of toe out on it when replacing the strut top mounts, they were replaced with part worn tyres which had the same amount of tread as the tyres that came off. For all intents and purposes the car would still have the same set of tyres ot came with.
Last month I replaced the boot handle as the chrome was bubbling off.
The backbox has lost the outer casing at the bottom, but still passed its MOT in July.
It failed its MOT in July due to a leaky front damper. I replaced all the springs and dampers with a Bilstein B14 kit.
The thermostat went a couple of months ago.

In terms of showing signs of wear...
The drivers seat leather has bum marks on it and the boulsters show signs of someone having gotten in and out of it a few thousand times.
The drivers door card is scuffed from my work boots.
It's done quite well in terms of stone chips and I feel no need to buy a touch up pen.
It has not a single dent on it.... Not a single one and only one scratch on the drivers side rubbing strip.
All the controls feel taught and not sloppy at all. In fact with the new suspension the steering feels weighty and precise, something it never felt before....
Had a new battery too.

It's been serviced at least once a year depending on mileage. The timing belt and water pump need to be done but I'll probably leave it to the spring.

Things that should have gone wrong with it but haven't .... Hatch wiring, still fine, but the hatch might get opened once or twice a week or once a month. The door handles are still attached too.

Can't think of many cars that could have been purchased for that price which would have been so reliable and cheap to run over the last 6 years.

Oh and to top it off webuyanycar say they'll give me £3,500 for it if I were to trade it in (I'm not going to!). You can't complain about that at all.
 

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Badge on the rear hatch has looked like this for a couple of years, will probably fall off some day....
 

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Yep, despite certain shortcomings compared with many supermini rivals, the vast majority of 500s are excellent little cars, reliable with modest running costs. My 1.4 Sport has been a peach of a motor in it's first 7 years of life, a paradigm of reliability. I've been lucky not to have had any issues whatsoever other than the flashing odometer (cured with a new battery).

Wish mine had an average fuel consumption of 55 mpg! Mine hasn't broken the 40 mpg barrier so far. The 1.4 is too greedy for revs :D
 
How bad are the squeaks and rattles though? I don't think I could stand mine after that many miles.
 
the only things that squeak and rattle on mine are cd's in the door trays. Seriously :) I'd happily polybush it, it's that rattle free.
 
Maxi, great to hear of your generally good experience - I agree that for its age and mileage, your problems and expense are very reasonable, in fact I doubt that a car costing twice as much would fare any better.
My TA lounge has some way to go - 35,000 miles and will be 5 years old next March. So far the only fault was a very small coolant leak, fixed with silicone and double clips (replacing the hose didn't cure it for some reason). Oh, and I had the flashing odo a few weeks back which I cleared with a 10 minute battery disconnect. And that's it - not even a blown bulb.
I normally get bored with cars after 2-3 years, but that hasn't happened with the 500. Perhaps buying it new helped, as we could spec. it as we wanted, and certainly the lack of problems makes me inclined to keep it for a few more years, although it will of course throw up some faults fairly soon.
It also helps being able to drive something different as well - our other car is a Suzuki S-Cross, which is great when we need more room, and my son and I bought an old MX-5 back in the summer for fun!
 
This morning my 500 ticked over to 80,000 on the odometer.

I know some people have less than ideal experiences with theirs, but mine has been as good as you could expect from a car that cost £8,720 back when it was picked up from the forecourt back on July the 16th 2009.

In terms of things that have gone wrong.
The rear dampers and front strut top mounts were replaced under warranty in April 2012.
The leather on the drivers seat base got saggy and wrinkly and was replaced under warranty also.
It's used one set of Vredestein Snowtrac 3 tyres and still has two of the original tyres it came with, the other two got murdered by my Fiat garage who put a ridiculous amount of toe out on it when replacing the strut top mounts, they were replaced with part worn tyres which had the same amount of tread as the tyres that came off. For all intents and purposes the car would still have the same set of tyres ot came with.
Last month I replaced the boot handle as the chrome was bubbling off.
The backbox has lost the outer casing at the bottom, but still passed its MOT in July.
It failed its MOT in July due to a leaky front damper. I replaced all the springs and dampers with a Bilstein B14 kit.
The thermostat went a couple of months ago.

In terms of showing signs of wear...
The drivers seat leather has bum marks on it and the boulsters show signs of someone having gotten in and out of it a few thousand times.
The drivers door card is scuffed from my work boots.
It's done quite well in terms of stone chips and I feel no need to buy a touch up pen.
It has not a single dent on it.... Not a single one and only one scratch on the drivers side rubbing strip.
All the controls feel taught and not sloppy at all. In fact with the new suspension the steering feels weighty and precise, something it never felt before....
Had a new battery too.

It's been serviced at least once a year depending on mileage. The timing belt and water pump need to be done but I'll probably leave it to the spring.

Things that should have gone wrong with it but haven't .... Hatch wiring, still fine, but the hatch might get opened once or twice a week or once a month. The door handles are still attached too.

Can't think of many cars that could have been purchased for that price which would have been so reliable and cheap to run over the last 6 years.

Oh and to top it off webuyanycar say they'll give me £3,500 for it if I were to trade it in (I'm not going to!). You can't complain about that at all.
For that price a bargain as you said. The problem is the same car costs around 12,000 GBP now = )
 
Yep, despite certain shortcomings compared with many supermini rivals, the vast majority of 500s are excellent little cars, reliable with modest running costs. My 1.4 Sport has been a peach of a motor in it's first 7 years of life, a paradigm of reliability. I've been lucky not to have had any issues whatsoever other than the flashing odometer (cured with a new battery).

Wish mine had an average fuel consumption of 55 mpg! Mine hasn't broken the 40 mpg barrier so far. The 1.4 is too greedy for revs :D
My best tank was 6.8l/100 km. I am on 7.2 l/100 km so far on this tank. Those eco tires are really helping as is the weather (no need for ac). Before with ac and wider tires i was struggling to go below 8.0l/100 km (about 35 mpg!)
 
Would be good to see up to and pass 100,000 miles. I plan to run my pop to the ground. Currently only 38,000 kms. Still a baby.
 
So is it safe to assume it's ok to wait until around 70,000 miles for timing belt change? Is the 2013 1.2 engine interference type?
 
My best tank was 6.8l/100 km. I am on 7.2 l/100 km so far on this tank. Those eco tires are really helping as is the weather (no need for ac). Before with ac and wider tires i was struggling to go below 8.0l/100 km (about 35 mpg!)

Mine wears Michelin EnergySaver tyres 185/55 R15 all round and I run the climate control on auto about 90% of the time. I average 7.4 l/100 km. Not great but could be worse considering that I like to shift up through 2nd to 5th at around 4000 rpm when the engines warmed up and road conditions allow! It's the way the 1.4 100hp is meant to be driven!
 
Well done for sticking with your 500, Daniel :) That's some fairly serious long-term ownership. Maybe another drive around Europe is called for (at the ten-year anniversary perhaps).

There was a time when it looked like old Subarus were your thing... and then there was the Panda..!

I'm happy with my second 500 and it's serving well as a stand-in while I fix my partner's Stilo. We might be long-term owners yet!

-Alex
 
It'll be with us for a while yet. I plan to get something like an i3 in a couple of years. At that point the 500 will get driven by the wife and the Panda will go bye bye.

I still like our Legacy turbo, but it's in storage at the moment, the other one I bought was purely for parts and to go paintballing in a few times a year.

Aside from the plate and the wear to the drivers seat, I think people would struggle to see any difference between my 500 and a new one :) But I take care of it and it has rewarded me with 6 years of relatively cheap motoring.
 
It'll be with us for a while yet. I plan to get something like an i3 in a couple of years.

Dunno why you'd bother :p why not get yourself a Mercedes CLS like I did, awesome contrast to the 500 in every way, 5.4L V8 engine :D I really enjoy driving both cars as each has its merits.

Aside from the plate and the wear to the drivers seat, I think people would struggle to see any difference between my 500 and a new one :) But I take care of it and it has rewarded me with 6 years of relatively cheap motoring.

snap... Ours looks much like new. Doing the wheels myself has really made it seem like 'ours'. It is relatively cheap and simple to look after as an 'older' car, I think 500s make excellent used-car buying (except if you've bought new, you've already had six years in addition to what you get next).

-Alex
 

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Dunno why you'd bother :p why not get yourself a Mercedes CLS like I did, awesome contrast to the 500 in every way, 5.4L V8 engine :D I really enjoy driving both cars as each has its merits.


-Alex
I'm with you on that.

Next year when we don't both need a new'ish cars under warranty I have a hankering for a W124 500e or easier/more mainstream an S8. Or then again get rid of both and get a Sprinter 4x4 as an overland camper and just get interesting but disposable cars as our 2nd car. umm decisions.....

I'd also agree with your second point. If you have some basic skills backed up by forums like these the 500 could be a very cheap for ever car despite some idiots opinions about how cr*p they are.
 
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Mine is a similar age - 2009 1.2 Lounge so thought I would compare experiences. Mine was more expensive at £10,150 - does your cost include scrappage allowance? Current mileage is 33,000 comprising roughly 65% city commuting traffic, 25% unclassified country roads, 10% dual carriageway so has had a different life. Similarly mine has an annual service but has had its timing belt replaced. Average fuel economy has been 48mpg.

Over the piece, it hasn't been an expensive car to live with and immensely reliable.

Things gone wrong:-
Oil Breather Pipe (warranty)
Gearbox oil seal (warranty)
Windscreen washer jet, driver side (warranty)
Rear dampers replaced
Boot hatch wiring repaired

Wear and tear:-
2 new tyres because of unrepairable punctures
2 windscreen wiper blades
New discs and pads
Exhaust back box peeling but leak free
Gear stick leather gaiter worn and replaced with new one
Rear Fiat badge milky, but front one ok.
2 stone chips in the bonnet from debris lifted up by oncoming traffic, repaired with a Fiat touch up pen in a colour that definitely isn't the same shade as my car
2 small parking dings in doors from other careless SoB's
Upholstery and seat bolsters are perfectly unworn as is ivory ambiance steering wheel but impossible to keep clean
Exterior chrome trim absolutely perfect
All original interior and exterior bulbs
Door handles still intact

Things less welcome:-
Dash rattles and creaks (although not as bad as a 2014 plate Aygo I was driving today)
Boot handle seizes and needs to be freed up every couple of months
Dealer used mild steel screws to fix number plate on - picked this up when power washing car at the weekend and plastic cover caps fell off.
Rear axle looking a bit crusty, particularly at spring pans
Front alloys have pitting corrosion, rears ok
2 new alloy wheel centre caps - original snap fits had gone brittle
Paint peeling off inside of lower front wheel arch, both sides - peppering from loose road surfacing I suspect.
 
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