Technical 72 Spider 124s wont't start

[timmycm850]

Can I assume you have put fuel in the tank since the tank change

 

[Twink80]

Can I assume you have put fuel in the tank since the tank change

Thats not relevant at this point. The car does not fire (even briefly) with fuel poured directly into the carb.

 

[timmycm850]

It does take a reasonable ammount of cranking to bring fuel from the tank in the boot to the front of the car. Make sure you charge the battery up to its best or run jump leads from annother car. If you can smell petrol from the exhaust then its primed. If you can smell petrol from the exhaust then you have either flooded it or it's clear then that the issue is ignition and therefore not fuel related so probably a completely separate issue to the tank being damaged.

 

[Angelabockus]

Its only any good if you get your car started!

Lol and It’s been a while, sorry for the delay
~ but it was electrical.
Luckily, I have an honest and reasonable European car mechanic who fixed it .

And driving it home, a tire blew out on the interstate. Can’t make this stuff up.
But the wheel nor the rim was damaged luckily, I pulled over immediately when I heard the sound and all good.

However, I thought I ran over something going to work this morning at 3 AM.
Now there is a dangling sound like something is hitting the road.

All of that checked out, nothing is loose.
And then I realized it’s only making the dangling sound ( It’s hard to describe the sound ) when the car is in gear.
If I’m coasting down the road, put it in neutral. The sound goes away.

My first thought is transmission fluid. Also, I know that at the bottom of the gearshift underneath it is held on by a screw or a bolt that could possibly be loose..

Any knowledgeable input on that would be greatly appreciated.

 

[timmycm850]

Good progress. Yes check your gearbox oil and importantly your diff oil as they are separate. Slowing in gear can make that type of noise on a ring and pinion in the diff.

 

[Twink80]

Lol and It’s been a while, sorry for the delay
~ but it was electrical.
Luckily, I have an honest and reasonable European car mechanic who fixed it .

And driving it home, a tire blew out on the interstate. Can’t make this stuff up.
But the wheel nor the rim was damaged luckily, I pulled over immediately when I heard the sound and all good.

However, I thought I ran over something going to work this morning at 3 AM.
Now there is a dangling sound like something is hitting the road.

All of that checked out, nothing is loose.
And then I realized it’s only making the dangling sound ( It’s hard to describe the sound ) when the car is in gear.
If I’m coasting down the road, put it in neutral. The sound goes away.

My first thought is transmission fluid. Also, I know that at the bottom of the gearshift underneath it is held on by a screw or a bolt that could possibly be loose..

Any knowledgeable input on that would be greatly appreciated.

Tbh with your run of luck I’d be looking for a spare car! I have no experience of Auto’s I’m afraid. If the noise goes away in N then its not propshaft, axle etc. Since the engine is still running it must be between the engine and gearbox, most likely gearbox. No idea what it could be in the Auto trans sorry

 

[Angelabockus]

Tbh with your run of luck I’d be looking for a spare car! I have no experience of Auto’s I’m afraid. If the noise goes away in N then its not propshaft, axle etc. Since the engine is still running it must be between the engine and gearbox, most likely gearbox. No idea what it could be in the Auto trans sorry

Thank you that is helpful!

And , yes, I have a primary car.
This one is for “fun”

 

[Angelabockus]

Good progress. Yes check your gearbox oil and importantly your diff oil as they are separate. Slowing in gear can make that type of noise on a ring and pinion in the diff.

Thank you so much !

 

[Twink80]

Thank you that is helpful!

And , yes, I have a primary car.
This one is for “fun”

Modern cars you can jump in and drive long distances without too much worry, old cars not so much! Once you learn their mannerisms confidence grows!

 

[Angelabockus]

Modern cars you can jump in and drive long distances without too much worry, old cars not so much! Once you learn their mannerisms confidence grows!

That is very true, ~ they get you from point A to point B with no style, lol
I am learning the nuances of my classic Fiat and I know the history and the problems and everybody tells me I’m crazy for owning it, but I love it. And, that’s all that matters.
I am not a fan of driving whatsoever, but if I’m going to drive, it’s going to be classic.
When the rain stops, I’m going to locate the gearbox, check the fluid levels, etc.
I also heard there is a bolt at the bottom of the manual stick shift that could come loose and be a huge problem.
Luckily, I have the original owner/repair manual.
Thank you for helping me in this forum.
It is truly a blessing

 

[Twink80]

That is very true, ~ they get you from point A to point B with no style, lol
I am learning the nuances of my classic Fiat and I know the history and the problems and everybody tells me I’m crazy for owning it, but I love it. And, that’s all that matters.
I am not a fan of driving whatsoever, but if I’m going to drive, it’s going to be classic.
When the rain stops, I’m going to locate the gearbox, check the fluid levels, etc.
I also heard there is a bolt at the bottom of the manual stick shift that could come loose and be a huge problem.
Luckily, I have the original owner/repair manual.
Thank you for helping me in this forum.
It is truly a blessing

Looking back at your photos, your car is manual/stick shift so the clattering noise unlikely to be oil level. There are some thin metal covers and splash shields under the car, could whatever you hit havedamaged or dislodged something?
If no rattle when in Neutral …..engine is running at idle, prop shaft and diff will be turning, gearbox output will be turning as linked to propshaft and being driven by rear wheels, gearbox input shaft turning if clutch released ie pedal up, if pedal down gearbox input shaft not turning
In Neutral input shaft may or may not turn (clutch engaged/disengaged) BUT no drive transmitted through gearbox as gears not meshed.
So does the noise happen in every gear, is it worse accelerating/decelerating?
Unlikely to be the shifter as its on the top side of the gearbox and unlikely to be impacted by what you hit
What did you hit? How big? Organic or Man made?
Puzzled as to what the cause might be.