Technical 500 Jolly Roof frame

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Technical 500 Jolly Roof frame

Hi Bigvtwin996.
Is there any chance you could send me the measurements, the tube size and maybe some pics of the fittings etc? We have a number of Jollys in South Africa but I can't find anyone with an original roof structure. Any help you can give me would be really appreciated.
I'm not in a hurry, just when you get a chance.

Thanks
Steve
Hi, can You contact me? I have a Jolly and N, Andrea form Torino, Italy, [email protected] , regards
 
Just for you!!!
I have battled through my junk and got to the frame...
it will not be the measurements that will be the issue...
it will be getting the correct angles...
the frame folds up so lots of brackets, as I said so it can be stowed...
or possibly strapped at the back like a softtop

I will take some pics tomorrow....
Hi,
I’m going to attempt to fab a frame myself.
Any chance of getting some measurements of yours installed on your car?
 
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Each of those little lumps is a machined and knurled knob that keeps the fame together when in place
The bottom is the rear (I thought they were butterfly bolts)...
If I were (and probably will) to make a new one there are lots of changes I would make....
this has been mig welded together I would supect the originals were gas welded or most likely brazed... I would probably start by making it in stainless and get a mate to tig weld it and polish the joints...
The tubes slot over small steel bar inseted into the tubes and are secured using the knurled knobs, that screw onto what seems to be set screws that are screwed into the frame that also serves to prevent them coming off as they can#t come undone past the heads, they do not line up accurately as a result these tube eends open up, this is also made worse by the fact the tubes are not bent acurately so they line up correctly in the first place I would find a way to bend the tubes more accuratley and reinforce these tubes or make a hole in the tube rather than a slot so the tube does not open up and the knurled knob then becomes a screw in bolt...

It is no a days job to fabricate something like this, the main side tubes are hinged in 3 places so the frame folds up...
looking at it now, I would start by making the front and rear uprights and the attachments to the car...
then making a fully tack welded frame with front and rear tubes bent to shape and attached , the middle braces are neither here nor there and are easy to fabricate and fit at any time, this frame could then be removed and you could look athow to make it fold and slot together.
I have seen old spoft top frames from 1960s UK cars they are a combination of fold back and removeable spars, some used a D section tube as it provied a flat surface to weld brackets or hinges......


Not sure if this topic is of any use to anyone else as there are only 23-4 known Jollys, but there are many great mins on here that have years of experiance with odd thigs so input is always welcome...
Hi BigTwin
I’m going to attempt to fab one myself, pretty much as you described you would do.
I purchased the repro top latches from Mr. Fiat here in the US
Can you tell me what the length of the tubes are that attach to the tops of the pillars?
Thanks
 
Hi,
I'm new here and recently was lucky enough to inherit a unique original Fiat Ghia Jolly 600 from 1962 in good shape (very few in existence). I have been trying to find some original parts but without success. As this thread is focusing on the canopy which I would like to find or build myself maybe you can help? I am also looking for original/re-made steering wheel and wheels. If you know where to find this, it would help too.
I understand that most mechanical parts are similar to a Fiat 600 and I am thinking I can find that on sites selling 600 parts (engine parts, gear box parts, breaks etc.).

I hope to get some help. Thank you.
 
mechanicals are indeed Fiat 600, unles you buy very expensive Repro parts, you need to seek out other 600Jolly owners via any way posible so you can copy them, I recently sent 2/3 of my 500 Jolly roof fram to SAfrica for someone to copy!!... I mainly know about 500 Jollys but will ask my Italian contacts...
(there are a few more 600 Jolly's than you imagine.... they seem to be more popular in the USA than europe...
 
mechanicals are indeed Fiat 600, unles you buy very expensive Repro parts, you need to seek out other 600Jolly owners via any way posible so you can copy them, I recently sent 2/3 of my 500 Jolly roof fram to SAfrica for someone to copy!!... I mainly know about 500 Jollys but will ask my Italian contacts...
(there are a few more 600 Jolly's than you imagine.... they seem to be more popular in the USA than europe...
Thank you, I really appreciate the help. Hopefully I can get an idea of how the canopy was made with pictures or a sketch. I have looked at a lot of pictures but they don't show the frame work. On mine a previous owner has has put a complete fabric enclosure for some strange reason. The original canopy is gone, unfortunately...
I guess one can build something similar but it would have been great to have a copy of the original.
 
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