OK then..... Ive measured up a Cinq for the same purpose and heres what I know.
The 16v 1995cc TC lump (Coup 16vT block) will fit, with around 2" to clear each side of the front inner wings, although will need to be set further back than the Cinq block to allow space for heat management system parts to be fitted. So that means youre gonna need to find somewhere to put a heater - as the inlet manifold needs to be where that is.
But, its a good 50kg heavier than the 1.1 Cinq block. which is about 10-15kg heavier than the 899cc block, so that will impact on handling hugely.
A RWD install's much easier - all HM parts can go in the front, the engine installed slightly further forward of where the spare wheel was, with the fuel tank crammed somewhere (front's no good for it really, as it varys in weight too much).
Then theres the track:wheelbase ratio and power - get that match wrong and it'll just spin like a top given a corner- look at the VW Polo W12 concept (which TBH the Cinq is very likely to be worse).
Also bear in mind its gonna need an SVA prior to going on the road if doing an RWD build.
Its the reason I have an 8v 2L TC driveline on my garage floor....and Im gonna extend the Cinq rear track to the same as the donor to reduce the chances of the spinning problem.
Oh, and it helps having done something like this before as to get it to work requires an appreciation of the mechanics of such a thing, cos its far departed from a standard engine swap.
As for cost, Id say 5k to complete erring on the side of caution (Im gonna try 2k, but thats very optimistic)
@blu73 - /Power utilisation isnt the problem in the gearbox IME, it seems much more fatigue related because of the torque going through them, and accelerated bearing wear due to the torque, but having been in a couple now, they could benefit from a longer gear ratio in 3rd-5th.
The 16v 1995cc TC lump (Coup 16vT block) will fit, with around 2" to clear each side of the front inner wings, although will need to be set further back than the Cinq block to allow space for heat management system parts to be fitted. So that means youre gonna need to find somewhere to put a heater - as the inlet manifold needs to be where that is.
But, its a good 50kg heavier than the 1.1 Cinq block. which is about 10-15kg heavier than the 899cc block, so that will impact on handling hugely.
A RWD install's much easier - all HM parts can go in the front, the engine installed slightly further forward of where the spare wheel was, with the fuel tank crammed somewhere (front's no good for it really, as it varys in weight too much).
Then theres the track:wheelbase ratio and power - get that match wrong and it'll just spin like a top given a corner- look at the VW Polo W12 concept (which TBH the Cinq is very likely to be worse).
Also bear in mind its gonna need an SVA prior to going on the road if doing an RWD build.
Its the reason I have an 8v 2L TC driveline on my garage floor....and Im gonna extend the Cinq rear track to the same as the donor to reduce the chances of the spinning problem.
Oh, and it helps having done something like this before as to get it to work requires an appreciation of the mechanics of such a thing, cos its far departed from a standard engine swap.
As for cost, Id say 5k to complete erring on the side of caution (Im gonna try 2k, but thats very optimistic)
@blu73 - /Power utilisation isnt the problem in the gearbox IME, it seems much more fatigue related because of the torque going through them, and accelerated bearing wear due to the torque, but having been in a couple now, they could benefit from a longer gear ratio in 3rd-5th.
