General 09 qubo making funny noise from engine

[maisie the ugly bug]

Hi all
We have a 09 qubo 1.3 multijet with 40000 miles on the clock, wife drove car to petrol garage, put some diesel in, on starting the car the engine now sounds like a tractor.
If engine is ticking over it`s a deep thumping sound, it sounds like it is coming from the air filter on the right hand side.
If you rev the engine the sound changes as if it has a worn tappet.:bang:

Any advice appreciated before we take it to the fiat dealer.

Many thanks

Robert

 

[Qube O]

Hi Robert,
Just a thought, it was Diesel she put in, and not petrol by mistake ?

Hope you get it sorted, Cheers Qube O.

 

[maisie the ugly bug]

Hi Qubo

Diesel was put in the tank, apparently noise was already there when journey was started but got louder as car was driven.
Have my suspicion that the cam chain has got slack, as when engine revs rise so does noise, also when engine has warmed up not as noisy.
Starting to get fed up with this car, brought from a Toyota dealer 10 mths ago have already had front suspension mount bearings replaced, these have already started to make rattling noises again, we have only done about 4000 miles since these where done, car now out of warranty.

 

[2668GRIFFIN]

Were your top mounts the latest ones as these have been redesigned?
also as you have only covered 4.000 miles on the top mounts, i go back to the garage and complain, they should be covered under manufacture warrenty i would have thought?
Luigi

 

[maisie the ugly bug]

Hi luigi

Not sure if they are the redesigned ones, one side was changed about 8 mths ago and the other side about 5 mths ago, I have just listen to the engine and it sounds like air being push out from somewhere, wondering if the manifold is leaking.
Car starts and drives fine, no loss of power or smoke.
Want to keep the car dam cheap on fuel and tax, I have a petrol mk2 ulysse getting expensive to run, £20 of fuel only covers about 70 to 80 miles?

 

[maisie the ugly bug]

Hi all
We have a 09 qubo 1.3 multijet with 40000 miles on the clock, wife drove car to petrol garage, put some diesel in, on starting the car the engine now sounds like a tractor.
If engine is ticking over it`s a deep thumping sound, it sounds like it is coming from the air filter on the right hand side.
If you rev the engine the sound changes as if it has a worn tappet.:bang:

Any advice appreciated before we take it to the fiat dealer.

Many thanks

Robert

Update, car is at fiat dealer, injector seal gone, replacing all four injector seals to engine hope injector come out ok, fiat dealer have quoted £300.00 all inclusive so not to bad.

 

[2668GRIFFIN]

All good
let us all know how you get on
Luigi

 

[maisie the ugly bug]

Hi all

Bad news on the qubo, unable to get two injectors out, will now require two new one, not best pleased, bill for the work is going to be around £970.00 ouch!, bloody cars give me a horse and cart anyday.

 

[2668GRIFFIN]

S***t, sorry to here that,sometime the bloody things just won't shift,but that depends how hard you want to try!there are ways and means..............!
Luigi

 

[Qube O]

Hi all

Bad news on the qubo, unable to get two injectors out, will now require two new one, not best pleased, bill for the work is going to be around £970.00 ouch!, bloody cars give me a horse and cart anyday.

Morning,

No way to know if you have had this car from new, (just spotted you purchased 10 months ago from a Toyota dealer), or if you have always had it serviced by Fiat..................but if the answer is yes, to either or both................then contact Fiat direct, and raise a case of complaint about early failure of a major component...........believe me they are very very good at helping out Qubo owners.

Mine is also 09 reg, and they have recently paid out best part of £1000 to replace my power steering rack assy, they paid 100% of the parts, 100% of the labour, 100% of the VAT..............I paid zero.

You will need your dealer to back your case, so quality of dealer is also important........

Good luck.

Take care, Qube O..

 

[maisie the ugly bug]

Hi Qubo
Was brought from Toyota dealer 10 mths ago the car has had three services, two by fiat dealer and last one carried out by the Toyota dealer we brought the car from, so I would think fiat UK would not help.

Robert

 

[Qube O]

Hi Robert,

I would still give them a call, its a 'free phone' No, so even the call would cost you nothing, just 5 mins of your time.......and the worst they can say is 'sorry, we are unable to help',.............though on the other hand they may offer to at least help with a ex gratia payment............worth a try..........

Go for it........

Cheers Qube O.

 

[philnicandamy]

never know till you try.....

 

[maisie the ugly bug]

Hi all

UPDATE

Car is still at dealers, garage have managed to get three injectors out, but are now saying they will have to get a special tool from fiat to get the last injector out, you would have thought a main fiat dealer would keep all special tools in stock.
what do others think ?

All the best

Robert

 

[2668GRIFFIN]

When i worked for fiat we had all the ''special tools'' we never had to borrow tools from another garage,to my knowledge is is no ''special tool'' for removing stubborn injectors,we did an overnight soak in rostoff and heated around the base of the injector to expand the ali around the injector and removed it in the normal way.
Luigi

 

[JTD_Liam]

At least it sounds like the dealers are trying to get the injectors out, rather than just saying 'nope, can't do it, 900 quid please', so fair play to them for that.

See if they can get the last injector out and if they can't & the bill subsequently rises, do give Fiat a call (00800 3428 0000) & see what they reckon.

They sent me vouchers to the value of the full bill when the front springs snapped and damaged a tyre on my (then) 6yr/60,000 ish mile Stilo. It was long out of warranty in terms of age & I bought it 4 years old from a non-Fiat dealer but they still offered the vouchers. It might've been because of the safety issue of the springs snapping, but it might also be because i'd owned two Punto's previously & told them so in the email I sent - I can see you also have a Ulysee and judging by your user name, have owned a Multipla?!

If you wrote them an email mentioning your loyalty then that might do you a favour. I think it helped in my instance & has also helped Fiat in the longer term as the Parents went out & bought a brand new 500 TwinAir a year ago & I plan to replace my Stilo with another Fiat or an Alfa - neither of which would've happened if Fiat had been awkward when I contacted them.

Worth a try if the bill looks like going over £500, or even if it doesn't.....they can only say no!

 

[Qube O]

Well said JTD, I have already suggested that Fiat should be contacted..........as you say they can only say 'no'.

Cheers Qube O.

 

[maisie the ugly bug]

Hi all
Fiat dealer has managed to get the last injector out, not sure how, but has said will have to get somebody out to clean the bores out, also said that they hope they have not damaged the head? not sure what he ment by that.
Will be getting in contact with fiat UK when we get the car back.
Fiat cars we have had to date

2 Fiat 127
2 Mares
1 mk1 Ulysse
1 mk2 Ulysse still have
1 Doblo
1 Qubo still have
will update when we get car back
Robert

 

[Qube O]

Hi all
Fiat dealer has managed to get the last injector out, not sure how, but has said will have to get somebody out to clean the bores out, also said that they hope they have not damaged the head? not sure what he ment by that.
Will be getting in contact with fiat UK when we get the car back.
Fiat cars we have had to date

2 Fiat 127
2 Mares
1 mk1 Ulysse
1 mk2 Ulysse still have
1 Doblo
1 Qubo still have
will update when we get car back
Robert

Morning, Believe me..........if the 'head' is damaged.........you don't want to know. Mega money..........

Hope for the best, Qube O.

 

[daveukqubo]

Does seem someones taking the p.. sir/madam with working on your car by reading fron your comments but hope all goes well for you and you have your qubo up and running and your happy be intresting to see your update comment when all done do gives us a follow up.