Hi,

it turns out the lads punto evo 2010 does not have the 199A4000 engine, but the boot id plate says it has the 169A4000 sohc 8 v engine, petrol.

He is off work for a week so we can check the actual number on the engine to be sure.

Has anyone used the cheapo cam and crank locking tool kit on e bay for £25!!, better than the Sealey one for over a £100, or is the sealey one made in china as well???

Cam follower shim removal tool, that hooks under the camshaft and allows compression of the bucket enough so the valve working clearance shim can be removed, were can i get one please???

It makes sense to do the valve clearances ( if we can get the shims? ) whilst doing the cam belt inspection and possible change.

thanks in advance.

There are 3 tools that I have for doing this:

1) Lever with ball end knob. Profiled to go beteen the the back of the cam lobe and the ship surface. Press down to depress valve. This is an old FIAT tool with P/N: SAT_A.60443

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dBpTwGhNYR8/Uf_Kx7CSa1I/AAAAAAAAA4M/NE7kN6yZbvs/s800/P1070047.JPG

2) Lever / Follower Locking Lever. This is used under the cam shaft between lobes and locates on the very edge of the follower cup. Fiat P/N:1860642000. It will depress the valve follower but not brilliant. Better to use 1) above to depress the valve and then this 2) to lock the follower down.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/fiat-lancia-valve-spring-bucket-hold-250558080

3) Locking Lever - Two legs which locate either side of the shim and on the follower edge. Can NOT be used to depress valve. You have to use 1) above. The Fiat P/N:186705500

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ventilarretierwerkzeug-Hold-Down-Bipod-1867055000-/123870819762

NOTE! Item 2) is for 8V mono cam engines
NOTE! Item 3) is for 8V mono twin cam engines
NOTE! Item 1) will work for both mono and twin cam engines

If you google around you will find equivalent tools for purchase.

Thanks s130, will do some more research, thanks again.

Whats your opinion about the cheapo china cam setting tool kit for £25, or shall i just buy the sealey one and be dammed.

puntodad19 said:

Thanks s130, will do some more research, thanks again.

Whats your opinion about the cheapo china cam setting tool kit for £25, or shall i just buy the sealey one and be dammed.

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Well China = Cheap = Rubbish IS NOT the case these days. All depends on the actual one you are looking at.

On older Fiat engines then Fiat put decent timing marks that were perfectly OK to doing the cam belt change with no problems. Indeed that never had workshop tools that needed to be used or were recommended.

Your 1.2L engine I've never worked on however I found this excellent video of doing a cam belt change on your engine.



In it the guy does not use any special timing tools other than the flywheel TDC marker and the belt markings. Also of course marking up the current crank and camshaft sprocket positions before the belt removal.

If you car is running fine and no performance issues then this would suggest that if the belt has been changed before then it is currently most probably correctly fitted. If this is the case then timing tools should not be required. However if there is any doubt then it it better to use timing tools.

My suggestion would be to take a punt on the £25 china kit. Do the timing belt change as per the video and also verify with the timing kit. For the sake of £25 it is not really worth not getting the kit as you may find a previous belt change is one tooth out.

Thanks for the input, getting the Sealey tool for locking the engine as its vat free at the moment, and "quaranteed" to be correct. I will bloody well sue if its not!!

Will do more research about the cam bucket tool for easy shim replacement, and have a good look see when the cam cover is off doing the cam belt.

Next, find a supplier of the shims.....