I have had my 1.6 for 5 1/2 months and done 5000 miles - I still cant use the clutch, ive been driving for 8 years loads of different cars but the stilo clutch bemuses me completely, if I dont stall i rev like a woman or judder away from every junction.

Anyone else struggle with the same thing :bang: :bang:

My clutch is just fine

Before I bought my 1.6 I'd read on here about some people having trouble with hill starts, couldn't find the bite, rolling back and stalling all the time so I'd prepared myself for the worst on my first Stilo drive. And I experienced ...well, an absolutely great clutch. It moves off easily without gas and I reverse out of my uphill drive everyday without the need for any gas, all on the clutch. I haven't stalled yet, ever, in it

So I guess there's something wrong with yours. You haven't got the pedal fouling on the over pedal trim panel have you? I took mine off early as it was getting in the way of an otherwise very smooth pedal movement.

must say I think the Stilo is Easy to stall (I've got a 02 plate 1.6). I don't think anything is wrong it's just the way it is with my car. I drive the Stilo and my other car so I just put it down to getting used to a car with a different cluth feel.

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I've only stalled my stilo a couple of times in total in the last year and a half, and those were when i first got it.

Although i let a friend drive it, and she kept stalling it or revving the nuts off it to get off the line.

I have the same problem with my 1.4, really difficult to reverse or drive in traffic. I always have to use gas to reverse. But fiat swear blind theres nothing wrong with it so I will just live with it. Other people who have driven mine have commented on how difficult it is to drive, but when the car looks this good who cares

yup i had the same trouble juddering when cold 2?

Its ur diaphram springs are lose on the pressure plate, go in to fiat garage and they should hopefully replace it under warrenty

hope that helps

1stly let me appologise for reviving an old thread,

However having stalled the car 8 times this afternoon, i felt it paromount to voice an opinion and/or get a remedy and/or tips.

the clutch has no feel to it, is there anyway to get some 'resistance'!?
or a general 'trick' to this hydraulic clutch malarki!? biting point is EXTREMLY high, with alot of travel. My previous car (02 plate Corolla) was childsplay compared to this, though the gear ratio was......yeah.....ANYWAY, how can i reduce the travel and get some 'feed back' from the clutch pedal!?

Do you also get a shudder when pulling away?

For the first year of having my stilo, I had a buckled flywheel. Which eventually destroyed itself at 80 on the motorway. The car drove like crap in traffic, hill starts were near impossible without massive vibrations, crawling along at lights etc was painfull. Almost ditched the car because of it, decided to get it to the dealers.

Trip 1. Faulty pressure plate, new clutch kit fitted (no improvement)
Trip 2. Found a severely warped flywheel after motorway failure, replaced this, replaced the clutch, ECU cleared and updated on examiner

Now the car feel like a totally different car, drives amazingly in all conditions and traffic situations now. I do find if i am wearing chunky trainers or my Docs then i do tend rev is a bit more than normal.

I have always found the clutch a bit ~~~~~ if you get my drift and the throttle is way to light for my liking if only fiat had put a cable operated throttle instead of the electronic one :bang: but thats fiat again with their crap ideas and bloody sensors ...IMO would have made life so much easier for the owners with a cable for clutch and accelerator

Yeah, LOL but that would run the risk of potential reliability issues...in that it WOULD be reliable and Fiat just can't have that

DO simple things well, not complicated things badly.

whats the principle behind the 'hydraulic/electric clutch', and is it supposed to improve? (surely not driveablility)

And i do find you have to be very light with the throttle, having said that now, the break pedal is hard as hell, with not alot of travel (which is okay i guess) but gathering that the pedal has a short distance before it 'stops' theirs not much choice between 'gradually stopping' and 'emergency stopping'.

pensuke said:

.....theirs not much choice between 'gradually stopping' and 'emergency stopping'.

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Braking is about how much pressure you put on the pedal (amongst other things) and not how far you push it.

.....unless of course you've just been fitted with some bionic legs

Argonought said:

Braking is about how much pressure you put on the pedal (amongst other things) and not how far you push it.

.....unless of course you've just been fitted with some bionic legs

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okay thats confused the hell out of me,

isnt how far you've pushed the pedal determined by the amout of pressure you've applied?

pensuke said:

okay thats confused the hell out of me,

isnt how far you've pushed the pedal determined by the amout of pressure you've applied?

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Well, I've driven a stack of cars where you could push the pedal quite a distance and easily without much happening at all.

It's the pressure you apply that counts.

Talking of brake pedal pressure, all Stilos have Emergency Brake Assist which applies extra braking if it thinks you need it. Now don't ask me how that works

okay let me clear this up,

the break pedal is light up until a 'point' then there after you have to apply pressure, is this the point which you speak of!?

and in regards to break assistance, would i have this feature even though i dont have ASR/ESP buttons?

(i may not have bionic legs, but i've been known to 'stomp' down on pedals, gotta make sure they work, ya know?)

That's right. Once the pads contact the disc then the more pressure is applied then the more energy is lost (or gained as heat). Apply too much pressure and the disc locks at which point you suddenly stop losing energy (ABS will have now kicked in to take over).

All Stilos have brake assistance & EBD (in simple terms this makes best use of the rear brakes without locking them).

As you can see even the most basic Stilo has an advanced braking system and the pedal can certainly do some odd things such as moving up/down and even dropping slightly (all intentional) when under sustained pressure.

The pressure applied is therefore important rather than at what position the pedal might happen to be at any point during stopping.

If you think about it, as humans we're far better at judging pressure applied by our legs than judging the exact position of our feet although admittedly you do get a fair bit of practice with the clutch pedal (which gets us nicely back on topic )