ellielou98
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I had my top-spec 2011 Punto 1.2 Evo Start/Stop for 2 years and never did it fail me - until the day before I was going to bet my brand new car! I drove to the cinema, parked and then the car turned off by itself and unlocked the doors, put the interior lights on and came up with the following messages:
Fuel cut-off unavailable
Check power steering - see handbook
Start/Stop unavailable
Immobiliser warning light
Engine warning light
:bang:
I was mortified. I called AA, RAC, Greenflag but none could honestly say what was wrong. I was towed home by an independent company setting me back £70 but at least I was home. I had 3 mechanics come out the next day to have a look and none could find what was wrong. I had my dash ripped out in the hope of trying to find a fuel cut-off switch as advised by Dunstable Fiat but no one could find it.
It had been jacked up but nothing obvious seemed wrong. All fuses/relays were fine, no fuel leak, battery was disconnected for 24 hours and it didn't work.
I thought to myself - "well this is it" - I either had to scrap it, sell it for spares or repairs or take out a second mortgage and send it to Fiat to fix. But after ringing an auto-electician as a last resort, he said "I think I know the problem, I'll be round in the morning".
At only £40 an hour it seemed pretty admirable. After doing diagnostics and only the cluster showing up he was practically upside-down under the bonnet looking for the problem and after an hour he knocked on my door and said he'd found the source of the problem. A single wire. He couldn't trace it as far as he needed to while it was on my drive so he had it towed to his workshop last Monday lunchtime and had fixed it by that evening. This wire was right under the gearstick next to the central computer and was a clean cut. He had no idea how it happened and neither do I - but this little brown wire caused all those warning messages/lights, cut off the engine and managed to make the car forget it had an engine. The wire had broken due to vibrations in the car - that's all.
A final diagnostics was done and AT LAST I heard the engine turn over! Absolute relief! It cost me £350 to fix in total - including parts, towing etc. Fiat had quoted me £200 just for a diagnostic check and started going on about how it probably needed an ECU which would set me back a hefty £1,500.
My advice would be, even though calling Fiat seems like the easy thing to do, source an independent auto-electrician for problems with diagnostics as those who work at Fiat are primarily service techs and would probably just stick a new computer in it and give you the bill instead of investigating it. PLUS when I spoke to Fiat they said they'd never even heard of a fuel cut-off switch (which wouldn't have fixed it anyway).
All this hassle over one single wire but I'm so glad it wasn't anything more expensive. :worship:
I thought I'd share my story in case there's anyone else having the same problem with their car. I've been told its more common on the newer models due to the more advanced tech specs in comparison to pre-2009 models.
Fuel cut-off unavailable
Check power steering - see handbook
Start/Stop unavailable
Immobiliser warning light
Engine warning light
:bang:
I was mortified. I called AA, RAC, Greenflag but none could honestly say what was wrong. I was towed home by an independent company setting me back £70 but at least I was home. I had 3 mechanics come out the next day to have a look and none could find what was wrong. I had my dash ripped out in the hope of trying to find a fuel cut-off switch as advised by Dunstable Fiat but no one could find it.
It had been jacked up but nothing obvious seemed wrong. All fuses/relays were fine, no fuel leak, battery was disconnected for 24 hours and it didn't work.
I thought to myself - "well this is it" - I either had to scrap it, sell it for spares or repairs or take out a second mortgage and send it to Fiat to fix. But after ringing an auto-electician as a last resort, he said "I think I know the problem, I'll be round in the morning".
At only £40 an hour it seemed pretty admirable. After doing diagnostics and only the cluster showing up he was practically upside-down under the bonnet looking for the problem and after an hour he knocked on my door and said he'd found the source of the problem. A single wire. He couldn't trace it as far as he needed to while it was on my drive so he had it towed to his workshop last Monday lunchtime and had fixed it by that evening. This wire was right under the gearstick next to the central computer and was a clean cut. He had no idea how it happened and neither do I - but this little brown wire caused all those warning messages/lights, cut off the engine and managed to make the car forget it had an engine. The wire had broken due to vibrations in the car - that's all.
A final diagnostics was done and AT LAST I heard the engine turn over! Absolute relief! It cost me £350 to fix in total - including parts, towing etc. Fiat had quoted me £200 just for a diagnostic check and started going on about how it probably needed an ECU which would set me back a hefty £1,500.
My advice would be, even though calling Fiat seems like the easy thing to do, source an independent auto-electrician for problems with diagnostics as those who work at Fiat are primarily service techs and would probably just stick a new computer in it and give you the bill instead of investigating it. PLUS when I spoke to Fiat they said they'd never even heard of a fuel cut-off switch (which wouldn't have fixed it anyway).
All this hassle over one single wire but I'm so glad it wasn't anything more expensive. :worship:
I thought I'd share my story in case there's anyone else having the same problem with their car. I've been told its more common on the newer models due to the more advanced tech specs in comparison to pre-2009 models.