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Fiat warranty will never pay out, whether it has a GSR kit or not. Its not an engine/manufacturing fault if your car swallows water going through a puddle!
But my sympathies, I once drove through a big puddle in a fiesta van( the air intake is right on the bottom on them!) and it had quite a sufficient engine rebuild!
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The knocking noise just sounds... tappety is the best word I can come up with to describe it, tappety in the extreme:yuck:
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You've got my sympathy certainly, in an annoying "with age comes wisdom" sort of way (isn't that also slightly patronising?). Any modification to a car carries a risk, and you have to satisfy yourself the modification is worth it. That said, I worked with a bloke who had a (iirc) Mk3 Astra diesel which ingested a large part of a ford in standard trim , so it does sadly also happen to cars straight from the showroom.
If you try to claim this on your warranty, I hope FIAT aren't reading this thread (if only for the rest of us)... Hopefully, a bent valve being replaced will be the end of it.
If you try to claim this on your warranty, I hope FIAT aren't reading this thread (if only for the rest of us)... Hopefully, a bent valve being replaced will be the end of it.
Okay... so most likely top end. Maybe it is a bent valve? Guess the trouble is it does mean its a head off job to sort it, so i do hope you get it done under warranty as otherwise you are looking at the thick end of a grand if you take it to the dealer.
and it would have to be a dealer or a reputable garage using fiat parts to do the job to keep up warranty? if it was out of warranty would be a nice little job to get to know the panda better
Do not drive it until you get it checked out properly. It could be something as simple as water in a connector or at the other extreme a bent conrod, lunched piston etc.
Sorry to hear that. This is the problem with fitting aftermarket parts which haven't had the benefit of proper development.
That is an appalling oversight.
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If you read the post properly you possibly would have picked up that a Rover was in front not running anymore. I very much doubt that the Rover has got a GSR induction kit.
In all the induction kits sold, this is the third time only that water ingression happened. The other mentioned case was in 2 foot deep water, where the car came after about 100 metres to stand still. Any induction standard or not would have suffered from water ingression.
When driving through water that is deeper then 3 to 4 inches a certain way to drive through is needed if they are not avoidable.
is there a photo of the puddle? as it sounds more like a flood to me
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You know what it was more like a flood, I don't even know why I used the word puddle, maybe because I'm not used to there being much more than a puddle around here when it rains heavily. I should have said gargantuan puddle or a flooded road yeah
You know what it was more like a flood, I don't even know why I used the word puddle, maybe because I'm not used to there being much more than a puddle around here when it rains heavily. I should have said gargantuan puddle or a flooded road yeah
How much more than a puddle was it ?
Like this ?
I did read the post properly. Please explain where it said that the Rover ingested water? It would most likely be an electrical short.
I don't agree that any standard induction setup would have necessarily suffered from water ingress. I really don't think you can generalise to that extent.
So the other one where it ingested water was that a result of poor design of the GSR kit?
Obviously user error is going to be a factor if you drive into 2 feet of water but that is just sheer idiocy really isn't it? Haven't a number of others said that the stock induction setup on the 100hp is much higher up intake wise than it is on the GSR?
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i ain't running a gsr but on my car the intake is low, i carry a screw driver, so if i ever do come across an unavoidable flood i would disconnect induction and use a sock until i was at the other side, but normaly i just go another way
especialy if there was a car in front already broke
wouldn't call it poor design, its common sense that if you change induction to a low feed one then you don't drive through a flood with it.
if you want induction for floods then you install a snorkel system
especialy if there was a car in front already broke
wouldn't call it poor design, its common sense that if you change induction to a low feed one then you don't drive through a flood with it.
if you want induction for floods then you install a snorkel system
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I'd be very supprised if you could claim anything (insurance or warranty) for driving through water. With the recent floods around here I think most people couldn't claim on insurance. The insurance companies argument was 'why did you drive through deep water?'. It certainly shouldn't be covered on warranty either, especially if it was a non-standard part that caused it.
Must admit it seems a bit poor to me if you have to carry a screwdriver around just in case you encounter a puddle that is too deep!!
If with the GSR kit on it puts the car more at risk of water ingestion, then ergo its a poor design i'm afraid.
Personally i wouldn't change an induction kit that put my car more at risk of water ingestion! I would buy one that had been designed properly and was no more at risk than the standard setup. Common sense.
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a puddle is no problem for my set up or a gsr, as the op has already corrected their post and said it wasn't a puddle it was a flood, see no reason for you to carry on with this puddle argument
on the way to and from a few meets this year the rain has been very heavy with a lot of surface water, i had no problem, nor did stu with his 100HP and gsr kit and his is lowered so the kit is even closer to the road
i also Carry a jack and a spare wheel in case my poor design tyres get a puncher
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same here and i live in Gloucestershire
Oldschool any chance of doing a GSR Snorkel Kit for the panda
In my grande Punto the induction lead pipe unclips from the air filter box :chin:
What always amuses me is when people see a stalled car in a flooded bit of road and go on straight through it anyway, on a road round here in Tidbury Green there were 4, yes 4 cars with water upto the windows, all normal cars too, no 4x4s! Who on earth sees one car and thinks never mind, mine will make it anyway! And one guy in a brand new 320d with 400 miles on the clock felt a right pillock when he did it outside my house, wrecked the engine and got towed out by my 100 quid 200k miles 520i LOL!! His excuse, "well the Range Rover made it through"
There are ways to lessen the effects though, and having induction systems further off the ground is the biggest, which is why I dont have a kit on mine! That didnt stop the standard induction in my 750i taking in a little water though. However im not going to say it was the cars fault, all mine for risking it in the 1st place. If taking the risk though, know your equipments capabilities!!
There are ways to lessen the effects though, and having induction systems further off the ground is the biggest, which is why I dont have a kit on mine! That didnt stop the standard induction in my 750i taking in a little water though. However im not going to say it was the cars fault, all mine for risking it in the 1st place. If taking the risk though, know your equipments capabilities!!
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