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Old 26-03-2018   #16
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

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Yes i agree with you on the hot air side of things. the plan for this weekend is to extend the piping and adding another bend to it to move the filter to the other side of the engine bay, and possibly moving it more downwards to suck in good clean cold air...

Now the question is about the vacuum gauge/ boost gauge installation... lol
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A vacuum gauge should be tapped in to the inlet manifold side of the throttle butterfly. Probably not the easiest thing to do. There is a thin breather pipe from the air box to a manifold connection but this is to allow the engine to suck in fumes at tick over so should be connected at all times. You could connect the gauge there temporarily for a test. Connecting it to the brake servo pipe with a T piece is not recommended as it won't be accurate due to variations when braking and you are interfering with a safety related item so this could effect insurance and of course braking effect.
Hi. Thank you very much for you valued input. I have gone and found out from somebody locally by me, and he told me it cant be done except tapping into the inlet manifold, as you have said, and the reason for that is because the car has coils and doesnt use vacuum lines, so now i understand.
Thank you very very much. :-)
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

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I've no idea what is meant by "coils"? I assume he means ignition coils, well virtually every petrol engine since the year dot will have some form of coil to boost the battery voltage to the 30kv+ needed to make a spark for the plugs by induction.
Personally I'd say its quite possible to tap the manifold but I'd not attempt it in situ. Once on the bench I'd properly examine it to see if the material is robust enough and there is likely to be no damage done. In fact why not try to obtain an inlet manifold from a scrapyard and use it for the modifications.
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Hi, yes i also presume the same as you.
Ive learnt more about these cars this last few weeks than ever.

Ive decided to go the turbo way instead of the supercharger way, supercharger way is way out of the budget.

Already gotten a turbo as well as the intercooler, now only the exhaust manifold and standalone fuel management system and perhaps the injectors etc...

Wondering if there isnt already an exhaust manifold i can use instead of having one specially made up for this car...
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

You may have to lower the compressionrate with another headgasket.
Tuning is more than bolting on pieces.

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You may have to lower the compressionrate with another headgasket.
Tuning is more than bolting on pieces.

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oh for sure, I completely agree that compression will be too high for too much boost. Ive been told I will be able to run 0.5Bar boost at the highest with very high octane fuel, so I will have to have a headgasket made to lower the compression ratio a little bit.
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

Hi.
Fitting a thicker gasket or a shim increases the distance between camshaft pulley and crank pulley, this alters the valve timing so a camshaft vernier pulley is a must to get the valve timing correct.
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Fitting a thicker gasket or a shim increases the distance between camshaft pulley and crank pulley, this alters the valve timing so a camshaft vernier pulley is a must to get the valve timing correct.
Hi, thank you again for the reply.
Wow, havent even thought about that "little" part. I am glad Ive joined this forum, as Im learning every time something new and interesting.
And here all I was really worried about was getting my hands on an exhaust manifold for the turbo... hahaha. It does seem to me as though I will have to go the custom route with that part...
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