General Facelift Fiat Panda 319.
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FCA will start in 2018 with the introduction of the 1.0ltr GSE-Firefly 3 cilinder engines in there model range.
According to leaked info there will be a atmospheric and a turbo version.
The atmospheric 1.0ltr 3 cilinder will have ± 70 hp and the turbo ± 100 hp.
It is rumored for a while now that the Panda will only get 3 cilinder engines in the future.
So, it could be doubtful that a 1332cc 4 cilinder Firefly engine will come available.
According to leaked info there will be a atmospheric and a turbo version.
The atmospheric 1.0ltr 3 cilinder will have ± 70 hp and the turbo ± 100 hp.
It is rumored for a while now that the Panda will only get 3 cilinder engines in the future.
So, it could be doubtful that a 1332cc 4 cilinder Firefly engine will come available.
Is this the same leak that told you that twinair production would cease in April 2017?
I can’t believe the amount of utter crap being spouted in this thread.
There’s no chance of an A segment Fiat ever getting a 1.8 litre engine, the idea is sheer lunacy.
I can’t believe the amount of utter crap being spouted in this thread.
There’s no chance of an A segment Fiat ever getting a 1.8 litre engine, the idea is sheer lunacy.
Hope the Panda doesn’t go 3 cylinder. I’ve always admired that the 1.2 was a 4 cylinder! Even if I lack the technical knowledge to explain why it’s probably a good thing.
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4 cylinder engines are generally seen as more refined than 3 pots. Probably not so much the case nowadays, but certainly in the past.
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It differ per 3 cylinder engine.
I think the VW 3 cilinder is crap, the Renault 3 cilinder is not to bad.
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This new info make more clear about the Orange Panda mule in resend pictures.
That car has the rear exhaust silencer from the 1.2ltr FIRE and a intercooler.
It would be plausible to think that this mule is already running the new 999cc, 3 cylinder, MultiAir turbo, GSE-Firefly engine, whit ± 100 hp.
That car has the rear exhaust silencer from the 1.2ltr FIRE and a intercooler.
It would be plausible to think that this mule is already running the new 999cc, 3 cylinder, MultiAir turbo, GSE-Firefly engine, whit ± 100 hp.
This new info make more clear about the Orange Panda mule in resend pictures.
That car has the rear exhaust silencer from the 1.2ltr FIRE and a intercooler.
It would be plausible to think that this mule is already running the new 999cc, 3 cylinder, MultiAir turbo, GSE-Firefly engine, whit ± 100 hp.
What picture?
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You mean the ones that look like they have the same cooling behind the grille as a twinair Panda?
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TwinAir does not have a rear exhaust silencer, so it would not make sense to change that after 5 years.
Different new engine could result in a different exhaust layout.
It’s a test mule, it’s not really indicative of anything.
You’re making wild assumptions based on nothing more than your thoughts. As someone who is currently working to deliver a new car, lets just say a lot of rumours and assumptions that people make are totally incorrect.
A new engine COULD result in a new exhaust layout, or it could be a number of things.
You were talking about an A segment car having a 1.8 litre engine, that’s simply NOT going to happen.
You’re making wild assumptions based on nothing more than your thoughts. As someone who is currently working to deliver a new car, lets just say a lot of rumours and assumptions that people make are totally incorrect.
A new engine COULD result in a new exhaust layout, or it could be a number of things.
You were talking about an A segment car having a 1.8 litre engine, that’s simply NOT going to happen.
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Weird that they say 'without Opel'. The engines that Fiat used were co-designed with Opel at FPT as far as I'm aware. The only joint developed one they used in the Panda was the 1.3 diesel. The article implies that without Opel they'll have some disadvantage. Not sure what that would be - unless it's one less customer for the 1.3 and 2.0 diesels.
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I never realised that Fiat actually worked with Opel to develop any engines at all!
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Yeah, I knew about the platform sharing, but I thought all the engines were Fiats own, mainly various versions of the FIRE, with the 1.3 multijet being a diesel version of the 1.2
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Not having, "hoping".
And i know it will never happen, Hell we most likely will never see a 4 cylinder engine again in the Panda's future when 1.2ltr FIRE engine production stops.
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MJ is nothing like a diesel version of the 1.2 FIRE engine - they have nothing in common.
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Fair enough. I'm sure I remember someone on this forum saying the 1.3 multijet used the 1.2 FIRE block, hence the very similar capacity, that's all.
Fiat designed and developed the 1.3 multijet engine.
But Opel did use it in the Corsa 2000-2006 model. As did other manufacturers.
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